[Sugar-devel] testing sugar on debian

[Jonas Smedegaard]

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On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 09:45:41AM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 02:43, Jonas Smedegaard<dr at jones.dk> wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 04:15:23PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>>>just installed squeeze and sugar-0.84. Which options have users to 
>>>run Sugar? Should we expect them to use a display manager?
>>
>> For now, the package sugar-0.84 provides the following ways for 
>> running Sugar:
>>
>>   * sugar-emulator (for invoking from any Linux X11 desktop)
>>   * XDG-compliant sugar session (for selection from GDM)
>
>Ok, will test with GDM.

Arrgh - latest sugar packaging also miss the XDG hints :-(

And worse: A bug in the dbus package prevents me from releasing my 
prepared packaging update including fixes for that and the python-wnck 
package dependency at the moment.

Most probably the dbus problem is solved at next update of Debian Sid 
(in about 6 hours), but at that time I am on a 30 hour train ride 
towards Debconf in Spain.

So all in all, take a break from the testing a few days - and if you 
don't hear back from me then please do ping me for these packaging 
updates that are prepared, just needs compilation and official release.


>> I am working on splitting that package to provide above methods
>> separately packaged (e.g. to not pull in Xephyr if only wanting GDM
>> session)
>>
>> So far I have almost only played with sugar-emulator (too lazy to 
>> quit my many xterminals) but I believe the GDM session should work 
>> equally well as through Xephyr (or, should I say, equally bad: as was 
>> in another recent thread, sugar segfaults for me currently...!)
>
>Hope to be able to reproduce it here.

As I wrote before, the segfault is due to that hippo-canvas bug that you 
brought my attention to.


>>>Just ran startx and in xterm, 'sugar', it complained about not being 
>>>able to import wnck, though python-wnck is installed. This doesn't 
>>>seem to be related to Sugar because python -c 'import wnck' also 
>>>fails. Any clue about what's going on here? Python version mismatch?
>>
>> Are you sure python-wnck is installed?  'Cause now that I 
>> double-check, I actually made an error in the most recent packaging 
>> to no longer dpend on it (thanks for bringing it to my attention!).
>
>Thought it was but it wasn't, just installed it. Also needed to
>install python-gtksourceview2.

thanks for spotting that.  Added to my pending packaging update.


>It fails to start now without any python backtrace, will investigate 
>further.

Probably the hippo-canvas segfault.  A tricky thing here is that the 
message about segfaulting does not always show on commandline.

Try with an unstripped hppo-canvas!


  - Jonas

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