[Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Design for a.sl.o and sugarlabs branding/theme unity

[Wade Brainerd]

Generally speaking, I have to agree with Gary.  I feel like I'm being
invited to a Gallery opening, rather than being encouraged to try some
software :)

I would really prefer to see something along the lines of
http://getfirefox.com/ with content links pointing at well designed Wiki
pages containing the content from this site.

Anyway, the general structure of the site is really nice - I'm just
wondering what its primary purpose is.  And I'm a bit concerned with how
much Wiki content is duplicated, and the fact that I have no idea how to
change stuff, like adding the ActivityTeam to the contributors list for
example.

Best regards,
Wade

On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Gary C Martin <gary at garycmartin.com>wrote:

> On 27 Feb 2009, at 14:54, David Farning wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 6:35 AM, Christian Schmidt
> > <schmidt at pentagram.com> wrote:
> >> Thanks Sean. We are in the final stages of proofing content on the
> >> betasite,
> >> and think we will go live this weekend. Stay tuned!
> >
> > Christian, I officially withdraw any reservations I had about the
> > new site:)
>
> Sorry to be negative here.
>
> I must admit I still really struggle with this site, I had hoped I'd
> just seen a very early WIP. All those super large font marketing speak
> text clippings surrounded by ellipsis; when you click one you're
> jumped to another large font text /todo/ type list page, covered in
> block highlights. That odd pop-up menu, permanently floating over the
> same fixed place and in the way of the main text flow. Due to the
> large font's, and unusual line spacing, there's a lot of up/down page
> scrolling needed when really much of the content could fit on a single
> pages. I'm also not sure what are navigation links are what are not
> (non-standard, some coloured things are titles, some are links), or
> what pages I've already been to (link colours change from page to
> page, not based on visited or one).
>
> Not that I completely agree with everything he says, but I think Jakob
> Nielsen (http://www.useit.com/) will have a coronary if he ever finds
> this site ;-)
>
> Hopefully it's just a combination of the code not working correctly in
> Safari, and/or me not being the target audience.
>
> --Gary
>
> P.S. In fairness I should also go through the site again and make a
> list of things I did like (i.e. the page with grid layout of
> activities, nice large colourful icons with simple clear descriptions).
>
> > I showed it around my nephew's elementary school yesterday;  The
> > teachers, teachers aids, and parents thought it was great!
> >
> > The most interesting aspect was the change from the dark to light
> > background.  They thought the dark, over welming, background
> > represented what one 'expects' from computers and the light background
> > was what you would 'want' from computers.
> >
> > david
> >
> >>
> >> Christian
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Sean DALY [mailto:sdaly.be at gmail.com]
> >> To: ,Josh williams [mailto:joshcwilliams at gmail.com]
> >> Cc: David Farning [mailto:dfarning at sugarlabs.org],
> iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org
> >> ,
> >> sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org, Christian Marc Schmidt
> >> [mailto:schmidt at pentagram.com]
> >> Sent: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 04:05:48 -0500
> >> Subject: Re: [IAEP] Design for a.sl.o and sugarlabs branding/theme
> >> unity
> >>
> >> Greetings Josh!
> >>
> >> In fact lots of work has been done on this by Christian, see for
> >> example:
> >> http://sugarlabs.org/go/MarketingTeam/Logo
> >> http://sugarlabs.org/go/MarketingTeam/Website
> >>
> >> and, in beta:
> >>
> http://www.christianmarcschmidt.com/projects/sugarlabs/betasite/index.php
> >>
> >>
> >> May I suggest you join the Marketing list?
> >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing
> >>
> >> We have IRC meetings on Tuesdays at 1600 UTC:
> >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/marketing/2009-February/
> >> 000341.html
> >>
> >>
> >> We are gearing up for the imminent Sugar 0.84 release.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Sean
> >> Marketing Coordinator
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 8:08 AM, ,Josh williams <
> joshcwilliams at gmail.com
> >> >
> >> wrote:
> >>> Hey David,
> >>>
> >>> I have had a quick look at the markup and the CSS, but I haven't
> >>> actually had a look at the PHP. I laughed when I saw the Mozilla
> >>> guys
> >>> had an IE style sheet, but then I figured they were probably just
> >>> reusing code. I was actually wondering if I could have a local
> >>> copy of
> >>> the remora code or access to a development or testing environment at
> >>> some point?
> >>>
> >>> I also agree that we need a common branding for all of the sites,
> >>> Gnome
> >>> is a great example I think Mozilla and Ubuntu are good examples
> >>> to. I
> >>> think a splash page for www.sugarlabs.org built on WordPress or
> >>> Drupal
> >>> would be a really good idea also. It could explain the what the
> >>> project
> >>> is, have a download link to the latest version, link to the wiki,
> >>> press
> >>> release, news etc.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>> Josh
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> David Farning wrote:
> >>>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Wade Brainerd <wadetb at gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hey Josh, thanks for the offer of help!
> >>>>> I definitely like your simple and kid-friendly theme for addons. I
> >>>>> wonder
> >>>>> off the top of my head though, if it makes sense to make
> >>>>> addons.sl.o
> >>>>> look
> >>>>> *more* like the other sl.o sites?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Have you gotten a chance to look at the aslo code?
> >>>>
> >>>>     Things are kind of confusing right now
> >>>>
> >>>>> with the different styles of wiki, trac, addons, schools,
> >>>>> gitorious,
> >>>>> api,
> >>>>> buildbot, etc.  planet is the lone exception, it seems to follow
> >>>>> wiki.sugarlabs.org nicely :)
> >>>>> It would be great if the Design Team could comment on this
> >>>>> decision.
> >>>>> Here are a couple other web infrastructure ideas:
> >>>>> + Improve theming consistency among various SL.o sites.
> >>>>> + Single sign on cookie among all SL.o sites - perhaps OpenID
> >>>>> based.
> >>>>> + Standard nav header atop all SL.o sites rather than the
> >>>>> various nav
> >>>>> headers in different places, with different links.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> The various gnome sites such as build.gnome.org and www.gnome.org
> >>>> are
> >>>> very nice examples of common theming tying sites together.  Some
> >>>> thing
> >>>> similar for SL would be great.
> >>>>
> >>>> david
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> + Better splash page for Gitorious, looking more like GitWeb - a
> >>>>> page
> >>>>> with a
> >>>>> small search box at the top and the rest being a list of projects,
> >>>>> sorted by
> >>>>> recent activity, showing owner and last commit details
> >>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>> Wade
> >>>>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 11:10 AM, ,Josh williams
> >>>>> <joshcwilliams at gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi, I'm working on the design of sugar labs add-ons with Mick
> >>>>>> Weiss.
> >>>>>> I've created a mock up at
> http://sugarlabs.org/go/AddonsPortal/Design
> >>>>>> but I've haven't been able to contact anyone on the design team
> >>>>>> as of
> >>>>>> yet. I would also like to volunteer some of my time for other
> >>>>>> projects.
> >>>>>> I'm primarily a front-end designer with XHTML/CSS JavaScript
> >>>>>> skills,
> >>>>>> but
> >>>>>> I also know some PHP/MySQL and have a background in Linux. I
> >>>>>> also enjoy
> >>>>>> creating icons, so if there are any activities developers that
> >>>>>> need
> >>>>>> icons please contact me. My portfolio is over at
> http://tucsonlabs.com
> >>>>>> .
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If you're a member of the design team or have some use for my
> >>>>>> skills,
> >>>>>> please let me know.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Josh
> >>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
> >>>>>> IAEP at lists.sugarlabs.org
> >>>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>> IAEP at lists.sugarlabs.org
> >>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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> >>>
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