[Sugar-devel] activites known not to either work at all or not on certin platforms

[Edward Cherlin]

On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 6:14 PM, David Van Assche <dvanassche at gmail.com> wrote:
> ok? I guess this will be contreversial but it must be said and acted
> upon (much more importantly)
>
> Im gonna try and make this easy:
>
> SoaS - the latest fedora core based
> I tried to impress my 9 year old gescwister... (related one)
> Speak - it will not even launch.... why is it then on a disitributed stick?

I have similar problems, and I don't even know where to submit bugs.
We need some kind of organization now that we are in a matrix
situation. We have a multitude of .xo packages, and at least the
following platforms:

o XO
o Fedora
o Debian
o Ubuntu
o Caixa Magica Linux (Venezuela)
o Mobilis with Linux on XSCALE processor (Brazil)

In addition to regular packages for installation, we want a LiveCD and
SOAS for each one. That means that we need an automated build and QA
infrastructure for all of these cases, and a reporting database. We
are past the point where all-manual testing makes any sense.

> ubuntu -
> no read
> no write
> no jiggzawpuzzle
> etoys
> scratch
> epathi
> measure
> anything tam tam based
> until very recently even browse
> pdf reader of any kind
> measure
> distance
> slider
> video chat
> abc flower (thing doesnt even exist)
>
> ok, that is about 50% of the failed testtube babies...
>
>
> what is the solution:
>
> we test the damn tings before release.... we do what greg
> dekoenigsberg quite elegantly suggested. a 3 tier solution:

+1, but we need even more than this.

> 1. make an educator mailinglist.... we get every educator we know on
> the list. We start off the discussion with what is really needed...
> the simple stuff... the stuff u guru coders can whip up in days:
> Examples:
>
> 1. typing tutor... all it should do is allow kids to follow whatever
> the teacher is directing. speed of typing is recorded? accuracy; graph
> based report; printable to parents... stars given to best pupils...
>
> guys these are real world scenarios... not invented by devs.. asked
> for by teachers qnd not surprisingly thinking why it does not yet
> exist.
>
> 2 same for maths... times tables/division/addition/substraction....
> groupings of kids, reports, printibale to both parents ant teachers...
>
>
> 2. (gdk) guys this is what teachers want... I reallly hate to say
> this; but the stuff right now on sugar apart from speak, which when
> working every teacher loves, is an absolute waste of educators time...
> yes the activities can be properly used... but basics first! mailing
> list to get the, involved; we mention the activities that we (welll
> actually they) have come up with, we discuss very briefly;
>
> 3: (gdk)then make a moodle/wiki page where educators and devs get
> together to create the tools that we actually need (the ones that will
> really chqnge the world)
>
> I hope no one takes this is as a critcism of the effort put into
> creating activities till now; but people... lets frocus... lets sugar
> mean something for teachers
>
> David (nubae) Van Assche
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