[Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Static services for Local Labs

[Tomeu Vizoso]

On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 18:29, David Farning <dfarning at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
>> Maybe the issue here is that local labs have a much broader scope than
>> the global Sugar Labs?
>
> I agree completely.  Hopefully the local labs will focus in on a
> particular area of the sugar ecosystem.  A testing lab, a deployment
> support organization, educational content development.... As such they
> will dive much deeper into a particular area then sl can.
>
>> I see local labs having something to say about everything that the
>> global Sugar Labs does, but not the other way around.
>
> Yes, but this discussion is about what services SL will provide for
> the local labs.
>
> Local labs can do whatever they want, upstream SL has to make hard
> decisions about which 'things' we can 'afford' to support.
>
> At this point in terms of infrastructure we can offer local labs:
> email account, mailing lists, a instance of our existing wiki setup.
> Anything else become to much work for our already overwork
> infrastructure team.
>
> This ends up being very similar to the deployment support issues we
> are facing.  We are facing some hard issues about how we can _best_
> use our limited resources to improve the entire Sugar ecosystem.

Right, that was the point I was trying to make: the SL's
infrastructure is likely to not serve all the needs of all the local
labs.

Regards,

Tomeu

> David
>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Tomeu
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 17:35, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
>> <dirakx at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Thank you for your thoughts on this,
>>>
>>> I was thinking in a cms not for communication fork but for presentation
>>> fork.
>>>
>>> Anyway we are still too young, but for the future we might want to think in
>>> having this static solutions in place. (i.e when we have people that can
>>> work on maintaining the infrastructure needed etc).
>>>
>>>
>>> Rafael Ortiz
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Sebastian Silva
>>> <sebastian at fuentelibre.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I see your point about CMS being overkill.
>>>>
>>>> And I also agree with you, the release cycle anchors everything.
>>>>
>>>> I for one consider it a bug, not a feature, that we have this division of
>>>> channels of communication, as some of the aspects you relate should be
>>>> feeding each other more.
>>>>
>>>> It is natural because of the different workflows, however I'd like to see
>>>> some convergence.
>>>>
>>>> I'm studying the possible use of a social networking platform (pretty much
>>>> deciding on http://pinaxproject.com/ ).
>>>>
>>>> If I can tweak it to fit our workflows (I'm working with local village
>>>> visiting teachers to fit theirs) - in particular, i'm interested in
>>>> including some sort of disconnected use (that is, for instance, getting them
>>>> a "news/mailing list/new activities feed" from the social network with a USB
>>>> monthly, and provide them with a way to "respond" - can be email - can be
>>>> manually performed once online.
>>>>
>>>> This is likely also the tool that will help manage the Bolivia deployment
>>>> (but we will likelly have some more connectivity in Bolivia).
>>>>
>>>> Looking forward to share more as things develop, looking for feedback /
>>>> synergy.
>>>>
>>>> Sebastian
>>>>
>>>> 2009/2/11 David Farning <dfarning at sugarlabs.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> I tend to think that a cms is a bit of overkill for a young organization.
>>>>>
>>>>> One of my personal long term goal is to determine how we can clone SL
>>>>> in Local SLs by reproducing the best practices of SL on a more local
>>>>> scale.
>>>>>
>>>>> Developer side:
>>>>> 1. The key component is the release cycle, ever thing else is anchored
>>>>> around the release cycle.
>>>>> 2. Dynamic communication through mailing lists and irc.
>>>>> 3. Static communication through wiki and bug tracker.
>>>>> Any thing else is overkill
>>>>>
>>>>> Educator side:
>>>>> 1. Release cycle - cool new features, bug fixes
>>>>> 2. Moodle - teachers know moodle
>>>>>
>>>>> david
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
>>>>> <dirakx at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> > Hello all.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I was thinking that maybe Sugar Labs could host, cms like drupal or
>>>>> > joomla
>>>>> > for Local Labs use,
>>>>> > Would be this an overhead for our young infrastructure ?
>>>>> > Is it better to Local Labs to have this kind of solutions sorted out
>>>>> > locally
>>>>> > ?
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Cheers!
>>>>> > Rafael Ortiz
>>>>> >
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Sebastian Silva
>>>> Laboratorios FuenteLibre
>>>> http://blog.sebastiansilva.com/
>>>
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