[Sugar-devel] [IAEP] activites known not to either work at all or not on certin platforms
David Van Assche
dvanassche at gmail.com
Tue Feb 10 22:29:38 EST 2009
u do realise that it was me that set up the moodle infrastructure
right? except I a was alone...
nubae
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 4:26 AM, Wade Brainerd <wadetb at gmail.com> wrote:
> We are trying to gather activity status information at
> http://sugarlabs.org/go/ActivityTeam/ActivityStatus - there is a 'soas' tag
> which indicates the activity works on SoaS, any errors should be reported in
> the Remarks column.
>
> But despite a few public requests we haven't managed to get any SoaS test
> results posted there.
>
> -Wade
>
> On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Caroline Meeks <solutiongrove at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Do we have a place for testers to record the what works with which
>> release?
>>
>> If not perhaps someone could set it up on the moodle system
>> schools.sugarlab.org using the moodle database module:
>> http://docs.moodle.org/en/Database_module
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 9:14 PM, David Van Assche <dvanassche at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> ok? I guess this will be contreversial but it must be said and acted
>>> upon (much more importantly)
>>>
>>> Im gonna try and make this easy:
>>>
>>> SoaS - the latest fedora core based
>>> I tried to impress my 9 year old gescwister... (related one)
>>> Speak - it will not even launch.... why is it then on a disitributed
>>> stick?
>>>
>>> ubuntu -
>>> no read
>>> no write
>>> no jiggzawpuzzle
>>> etoys
>>> scratch
>>> epathi
>>> measure
>>> anything tam tam based
>>> until very recently even browse
>>> pdf reader of any kind
>>> measure
>>> distance
>>> slider
>>> video chat
>>> abc flower (thing doesnt even exist)
>>>
>>> ok, that is about 50% of the failed testtube babies...
>>>
>>>
>>> what is the solution:
>>>
>>> we test the damn tings before release.... we do what greg
>>> dekoenigsberg quite elegantly suggested. a 3 tier solution:
>>>
>>> 1. make an educator mailinglist.... we get every educator we know on
>>> the list. We start off the discussion with what is really needed...
>>> the simple stuff... the stuff u guru coders can whip up in days:
>>> Examples:
>>>
>>> 1. typing tutor... all it should do is allow kids to follow whatever
>>> the teacher is directing. speed of typing is recorded? accuracy; graph
>>> based report; printable to parents... stars given to best pupils...
>>>
>>> guys these are real world scenarios... not invented by devs.. asked
>>> for by teachers qnd not surprisingly thinking why it does not yet
>>> exist.
>>>
>>> 2 same for maths... times tables/division/addition/substraction....
>>> groupings of kids, reports, printibale to both parents ant teachers...
>>>
>>>
>>> 2. (gdk) guys this is what teachers want... I reallly hate to say
>>> this; but the stuff right now on sugar apart from speak, which when
>>> working every teacher loves, is an absolute waste of educators time...
>>> yes the activities can be properly used... but basics first! mailing
>>> list to get the, involved; we mention the activities that we (welll
>>> actually they) have come up with, we discuss very briefly;
>>>
>>> 3: (gdk)then make a moodle/wiki page where educators and devs get
>>> together to create the tools that we actually need (the ones that will
>>> really chqnge the world)
>>>
>>> I hope no one takes this is as a critcism of the effort put into
>>> creating activities till now; but people... lets frocus... lets sugar
>>> mean something for teachers
>>>
>>> David (nubae) Van Assche
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
>>> IAEP at lists.sugarlabs.org
>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Caroline Meeks
>> Solution Grove
>> Caroline at SolutionGrove.com
>>
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>>
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>
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