[Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Activity as a regular Journal Object request for inclusion to 0.88

Eben Eliason eben.eliason at gmail.com
Thu Dec 3 00:23:37 EST 2009

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:54 AM, Martin Langhoff
<martin.langhoff at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Wade Brainerd <wadetb at gmail.com> wrote:
>> When deleting an object from the Journal that is an activity bundle,
>> we ought to display an alert with a scary icon.  The alert should
>> clearly state that Journal entries will no longer be able to be opened
>> until the activity is reinstalled.
> Majority of 6 year old will not understand that.

The best way to handle this, I think, is to let kids delete activities
but also keep a reference to the source in the form of an update URL
or similar, so that fetching the activity automatically when an
instance of it is resumed can be done. There's additional UI work
there, and we can't guarantee connectivity, etc., but it would help
reduce the overhead involved. (I'm not suggesting we shouldn't find
ways to make it clearer when a deletion is happening, either, but as
noted, the dialog may not work in practice with the target audience.)

>> Some of the other operations Aleksey mentioned, like upgrading
>> activities, ought to display similar alerts.
> Gentlemen, alerts do not work with young users. We have to just DTRT,
> or provide actions that are very clearly different (and even then...).

On a more general note, this discussion has many hints of the
action/object views that have been tossed around for some time now.
This specifically addressed the conflict between the desire to manage
all objects and the desire to have the Journal reflect only the
actions of the child.

In this split, the action view shows actions, which reference one or
more objects (activities, people, devices, etc.) This would contain
only references to things the children have done themselves. The
object view shows objects, which is a more traditional view of
everything that's around to be manipulated. Any preinstalled
activities would appear in the object view by default, and thus be
accessible by kids to copy, share, modify, etc. (and as they do, new
actions will be created to record that).

Ultimately, the object view would look much like the current Journal
view does, and the actions view would be a bit friendlier. One benefit
of this is that young kids need only look at the actions view, while
those that wanted more control could dig into the objects directly.


> cheers,
> m
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