[Sugar-devel] OLPC updates from ASLO

[Aleksey Lim]

On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 09:08:29PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
> On 01.12.2009, at 18:13, Aleksey Lim wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 07:51:32AM +0000, Daniel Drake wrote:
> >> 2009/12/1 Aleksey Lim <alsroot at member.fsf.org>:
> >>> AFAIK OLPC will use 0.84 release and will lack of native sugar updater
> >>> but it could be useful idea to keep activities repository in one place.
> >> 
> >> We are using the sugar control panel applet for activity updates as we
> >> have done before.
> >> 
> >>> So, the question is will html page which lists all ASLO activities in
> >>> microformat enough for OLPC updater.
> >> 
> >> Having the microformat on ASLO would be great and I never understood
> >> why this wasn't the approach taken in the first place, rather than the
> >> considerable task of adding some strange XML format support to the
> >> updater applet for later versions.
> >> 
> >> The great thing about the microformat is that not only did it provide
> >> an interface for those of us single-users who have fast internet
> >> connections, it was designed inherently for simplicity, scalability
> >> and replication, and came with a decent amount of documentation of how
> >> you would replicate this on a deployment. The XML thing seems to be
> >> lacking in those areas.
> >> 
> >> However I think there are 2 additional things that would block moving
> >> the activity group to ASLO:
> >> 1. It's not possible to create a group with specific locked versions,
> >> right? One reason for doing it separately is that we want to control
> >> the flow of activity updates pushed to customers. I'm concerned that
> >> activities are not seeing much QA or testing and regressions are too
> >> easy to come by. I'm also concerned that the amount of testing that
> >> developers do on 0.84 before marking activities as 0.84-compatible
> >> will decrease over the next few months/years.
> > 
> > ASLO has several levels of "QA", all public activities(reviewed by
> > editors) should work(w/o obvious faults), public activities could be
> > featured by editor, editor collections of public activities. So, we can
> > utilize this scheme for OLPC needs.
> > 
> >> 2. No content bundle support
> > 
> > Yeah, but thats the question should we mix activities and other kinds
> > of sugar objects. Different types could require different UI or
> > different uploading scheme.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Aleksey
> 
> This new update scheme came as a surprise to me too. Guess I have not payed enough attention. 
> 
> Does it completely ignore the bundle's update_url?
> 
> Is there any documentation for activity authors besides the feature proposal?
> 
> 	http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Sugar_Update_Control_ASLO

it works how its described on wiki

> At least the example given there does not seem to work:
> 
> 	http://activities.sugarlabs.org/services/update.php?id=org.laptop.WebActivity&appVersion=0.86
> 
> It returns a basically empty XML file.

oops, sorry - outdated url

-- 
Aleksey