[Sugar-devel] Sugar Platform clarifications

Bert Freudenberg bert at freudenbergs.de
Tue Dec 1 09:45:08 EST 2009

On 01.12.2009, at 15:13, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 02:48:18PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
>> On 01.12.2009, at 13:33, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>>> On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 11:27:27AM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
>>>> On 01.12.2009, at 02:43, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 02:15:46AM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
>>>>>> On 29.11.2009, at 15:02, Sascha Silbe wrote:
>>>>>>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.86/Platform_Components
>>>>>> Speaking of Etoys - that 0.86 page lists 4.0.2206, whereas the actual Etoys version in the 0.86 release was 4.0.2319 (and 4.0.2332 in 0.86.2). How come? Should I just change it, and if so, to which version? Also, there have been some bug fixes since then, the current version (good for 0.82 to 0.86) is 4.0.2339.
>>>>> I believe that page should have the minimal version working with Sugar.
>>>>> It is a wiki: feel free to update if the information is wrong :-)
>>>> I changed it to 4.0.2332.
>>> Which means you consider older versions to *not* work with Sugar?
>> No, but the page says that these are the versions that "activity authors can rely on" when targeting Sugar 0.86. Actually, 4.0.2339 has an important fix for etoys-based activities (SugarLabs #1576), but since this was not ready in time for 0.86, activity authors can not rely on it.
> Python 2.6 was also "ready" when 0.86 was released, but promising activity authors as a minimum that version raise the bar for distributors.
> I strongly recommend to promote a more relaxed "lowest denominator".

Python 2.6 is not part of Sugar. Etoys 4.0.2332 is part of the Sugar 0.86.2 release, not merely a dependency.

E.g., the requirements for squeak-vm, which is a dependency of etoys, are relaxed. If you actually use 3.10-4 as stated on the platforms page, then e.g. the activity title in Sugar will be wrong. But since that is largely cosmetic, it's not a firm requirement. Of course, 3.10-6 or 3.11 would be much better.

- Bert -

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