[Sugar-devel] feedback from a teacher in Uruguay

[Gabriel Eirea]

2009/8/31 Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org>:
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 01:07, Gabriel Eirea<geirea at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 2009/8/14 Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org>:
>>> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 23:16, Sascha
>>> Silbe<sascha-ml-ui-sugar-devel at silbe.org> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 04:32:08PM -0300, Gabriel Eirea wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 2) She saves Write documents in the pendrive, then she opens them at
>>>>> home with KUbuntu and OpenOffice, then she saves the modified document
>>>>> in the pendrive and tries to open it in the XO with Write. She claims
>>>>> she can't open it even if the document was not modified.
>>>>
>>>> To me this sounds like OpenOffice is saving a later version of the
>>>> OpenDocument (ODT) format than Write understands (similar to Microsoft Word
>>>> 95 not being able to read documents that have been written by Microsoft Word
>>>> 97). In that case, there may be a way to tell Open Office to save in the
>>>> older ODT version, so that Write can still read it.
>>>> I hope someone else more proficient with Write (Abiword) and OpenOffice will
>>>> either confirm or disprove my suspicion.
>>>
>>> Yes, would be awesome to get those files and see in which format are.
>>
>> Well, finally I got some files to analyze the problem. Recalling the
>> problem: the kids save a Write entry, the teacher moves the files from
>> the journal to a pendrive, opens them in Ubuntu with OpenOffice,
>> modifies them, saves them back again in the pendrive and moves them
>> back to the journal in the kid's XO. But then when they try to open it
>> in Write they see a blank page. Same thing if she saves from
>> OpenOffice in pdf and tries to open it in the XO from the journal.
>>
>> Please find attached a compressed file with four examples.
>
> Thanks a lot, these files are the ones from the XO or have been
> already opened in OpenOffice?

They have already been opened in OpenOffice, modified and saved again.

> Seems like the formats of those files are ok and I was able to open on
> a XO with the 802 image, also after editing them in OpenOffice in
> Fedora.
>
> What I have seen during this test that could explain the confusion is
> that if you change the files from the usb stick on non-Sugar, the
> internal database on the stick is not updated.
>
> This means that when you plug next the stick on the XO, you will see
> the "ghost" entries associated to the old files plus some new entries
> associated to the new files. If the user tries to copy the ghost
> entries instead of the real ones (which look mostly the same) then I
> can see how this problem would arise.
>
> To verify this hypothesis, please tell the teacher to delete the
> folder named .olpc.store in Ubuntu, before placing the usb stick back
> on the XO. This will remove the ghost entries.

This may explain the problem, I will ask her to try deleting the
folder. I believe you said before that this problem no longer exists
in 0.84?

> Thanks a lot,
>
> Tomeu

Thank you for being there.

Gabriel