[Sugar-devel] The ARM is near

Walter Bender walter.bender at gmail.com
Fri Aug 28 07:11:54 EDT 2009


On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 6:57 AM, Tomeu Vizoso<tomeu at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:51, Peter Robinson<pbrobinson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> As a developer, dropping .xo support would take a lot of work from my
>>>>> shoulders, but I suspect our users would kill us...
>>>>
>>>> I suspect users will kill you as well when activities don't work on
>>>> machine X but they do on Y....... your damned if you do, damned if you
>>>> don't. Either way there's going to be pain, whether its the in the
>>>> short or the long term.
>>>
>>> Yeah, I guess Jonas' suggestion of promoting platform independent
>>> bundles as "first class" addresses this concern.
>>>
>>> I personally don't think we are going to be able to outdo rpms nor
>>> debs so the less binary code we have the better.
>>>
>>> That said, our users are free to do whatever they want and Sugar will
>>> be deployed in wildly different scenarios. So I think that leaving
>>> some extra flexibility is wise because if we try to anticipate all the
>>> ways in which Sugar will be used, we'll fail.
>>
>> That's the advantage of open source - people can do what ever they
>> like. I think from the sugar perspective there needs to be some
>> standard defined and recommendation made +to make supporting it easier
>> rather than just sitting on the fence. Deployments or people of course
>> are then free to ignore those recommendations and package half a
>> binary distribution up in their .xo if they so choose. At the moment
>> its not so much of an issue but moving forward I think that if
>> something isn't well defined now we're going to end up with a massive
>> support burden going forward with users coming to mailing lists
>> complaining because activities don't work and that sugar is bad
>> because nothing works.
>
> I agree, what's the Activity Team's opinion on this?

Wearing my lowly activity-developer hat, I am looking for guidance. I
have stalled out on the maintenance of several activities (Turtle Art
with Sensors and Measure) because I don't want to make unilateral
(uniformed) decisions about how to handle the multi-arch issue. I
await guidance from those with more packaging experience than me (just
about anyone on this list).

-walter

> Regards,
>
> Tomeu
>
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