[Sugar-devel] Etoys packages

David Farning dfarning at sugarlabs.org
Wed Aug 26 10:18:54 EDT 2009


On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Bert Freudenberg<bert at freudenbergs.de> wrote:
>
> On 26.08.2009, at 14:53, Gavin Romig-Koch wrote:
>
> On 08/26/2009 08:27 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
>
> I keep forgetting to copy Gavin on new release announcements. But then, I
> can't possibly cc all the package maintainers for all the distros out there
> (unless they subscribe to an etoys-announce list ... now there's an idea).
> How is this usually handled?
>
> I'm sorry.   I am subscribed to etoys-announce, but I'm very behind on my
> non-work email.
>
> No need to apologize, there is no etoys-announce list, yet ;)
> But would it be helpful? Say, an etoys-packagers list, without the
> distracting developer chit-chat?
>
> Usually package maintainers are more on top of things, and usually people
> bug the package maintainer directly rather than people within the upstream
> project.
>
> I assume we are talking about etoys-4.0.2247.tar.gz, I'll get it into
> rawhide this week.  I'll also set up some automation to make it easier for
> me to be on top of this.
>
> While I'm talking, let me ask, I've been grabbing my etoys releases from
>
>     http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/etoys/
>
> is that the correct place.   I ask because it seems like these should be
> coming out of Squeakland rather than Sugarlabs.  Not that I have a problem
> with this, just wondering about the relationship?
>
> Etoys is a separate project, developed by volunteers and led by the
> Squeakland foundation, true. It was also made part of the Sugar platform in
> glucose. It's hard to estimate usage numbers but I'm pretty sure OLPC
> deployments of Etoys in Sugar do outnumber the regular (non-Sugar) users. So
> we give special care to the Sugar version. There also used to be slight
> differences, though we may almost have reached a point where the difference
> is so minimal that we can unify the two releases.

Go! Etoys Go!

> In any case, the
> OLPC/Sugar version can run stand-alone outside of Sugar fine now, so we need
> only a single Linux package.
> For now it's correct to use the glucose tar balls. On Squeakland we don't
> even provide those yet (slowly working on it).
> - Bert -
>
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