[Sugar-devel] Is Project Ceibal violating the GNU General Public License?
Walter Bender
walter.bender at gmail.com
Tue Aug 25 07:24:46 EDT 2009
Let me investigate further, because the response to my query was as I
quoted below. Clearly there is a miscommunication somewhere within the
Ceilbal organization.
-walter
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Andrés Ambrois<andresambrois at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday 24 August 2009 10:11:54 am Walter Bender wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 3:48 AM, John Gilmore<gnu at toad.com> wrote:
>> > Re: [Sugar-devel] RFH - Journal corruption reports fom 8.2.1 users in Uy
>> >
>> >> Remember that Ceibal XOs have root access locked-down. And I recently
>> >> found out that since the key-delegation stuff was implemented, we can't
>> >> request developer keys. Not from OLPC at least, and LATU is not
>> >> providing that service that I know...
>> >
>> > Could someone please clarify this?
>>
>> According to Ceilbal (24-08-09):
>>
>> "We have delivered developer keys in the past, and we will deliver them to
>> the owner of the machine upon request."
>>
>> Therefore, I do not think that there is a violation of the GPL.
>
> I wrote to Ceibal asking for information and this is what they replied:
>
> "Hola Andrés,
> Debido al sistema de seguridad incorporado en la XO, el Plan Ceibal no brinda
> la clave de desarrollador. Esto se debe, a que una persona con acceso a la
> clave podría desactivar la seguridad de la máquina.
> Cualquier otra consulta, no dudes en volver a comunicarte."
>
> Translation:
>
> Hello Andrés,
>
> Because of the security system built into the XO, Plan Ceibal doesn't provide
> developer keys. This is because a person with access to the key could
> deactivate the security of the machine.
> Don't hesitate in contacting us for any other questions.
>
>> -walter
>>
>> > It sounds like Project Ceibal is explicitly violating the GNU General
>> > Public License on much or all of the software that it ships:
>> >
>> > * It provides binaries without source code, and without a written
>> > offer of source code.
>> >
>> > * It provides binaries in a physical form (laptop) which is
>> > protected against modification by the end-user, so that those
>> > users cannot replace the GPLv3-licensed software on the laptop
>> > with later versions. More than 20 packages shipped are GPLv3
>> > licensed, as of 12 months ago, including the Coreutils (most
>> > shell commands), tar and cpio (used for software updates), and
>> > gettext (internationalization). GPLv3 requires that the relevant
>> > passwords or keys must be supplied to the end user -- including
>> > both the "developer key" and the root password.
>> >
>> > * Some programs are modified, but the modified versions are not
>> > marked to distinguish them from the original GPL-licensed
>> > programs.
>> >
>> > There are other less important violations as well (most are documented
>> > at bugs.laptop.org; search for "GPL").
>> >
>> > I would be happy to learn that the children receiving these laptops
>> > have full access to source code, ability to upgrade their laptops
>> > at will, and can tell modified from unmodified software. Please let
>> > me know what is really happening in the schools of Uruguay.
>> >
>> > John Gilmore
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Devel mailing list
>> > Devel at lists.laptop.org
>> > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
>
> --
> -Andrés
>
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