[Sugar-devel] Assessment in Karma

[Christoph Derndorfer]

On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Martin Langhoff
<martin.langhoff at gmail.com>wrote:

> 2009/7/29 Christoph Derndorfer <christoph.derndorfer at gmail.com>:
> > As previously mentioned by Bryan in his "Automated Assessment is the
> Killer
> > App" blog post
> > (
> http://karmaproject.wordpress.com/2009/07/06/assessment-is-the-killer-app/
> )
> > student assessment is an important component of Karma.
> ...
> > Now I was wondering whether anyone here had specific suggestions on how
> to
> > address this or pointers to how other e-learning solutions (regardless of
> > whether stand-alone applications or Web based) solve this interesting
> > challenge.
>
> Yup - from moodle-land... my original notes are in this email from
> earlier this year
> http://www.mail-archive.com/sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org/msg05584.html
>
> Super short recap, with bonus links...
>
>  - Recommended: look at what SCORM objects store in the LMS backend
> (the "datamodel")  -- grab the API docs and look for cmi.score.raw
> cmi.progress_measure -- the full listing is here, but it is missing
> the full discussion of the meaning of each value:
>
> http://www.scorm.com/scorm-explained/technical-scorm/run-time/run-time-reference/
>
>  - Recommended: look at Moodle's Grades API
> http://docs.moodle.org/en/Grades
>
> Both APIs have been designed trying to represent many ways of grading
> and scoring. I would try to fit with one of those rather than spend
> precious years revisiting mistakes :-)


Thanks a lot for the link and all the information, especially since I had
missed that discussion back in June...


>  - Automatic assessment is snake oil, Bryan is well intentioned but
> deeply wrong. See the earlier email at
> http://www.mail-archive.com/sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org/msg05584.html


Well, here I think it really depends on the specific subject matter. Primary
school Maths for example is an area where I definitely believe that
automatic assessment can be very useful. Learning about the rivers, cities,
provinces and countries in your proximity is another one (which is basically
what "Conozco Uruguay" is doing). Biology with learning about the parts of a
flower or a human ear is another example that comes to mind.

What I'm basically thinking is that a lot of the areas of knowledge that I
as a kid (I went to a Montessori primary school) explored with the help of
tools such as LÜK (http://www.luek.de/EN/index_english.html) can be nicely
implemented in a digital form. While back then it was the pattern on the
back of the LÜK pieces that told me whether my solution was correct these
days this can be done by a computer.

Just my 2 cents,
Christoph

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Christoph Derndorfer
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e-mail: christoph at olpcnews.com
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