[Sugar-devel] Design help needed for web applications within Sugar

Felipe López Toledo zer.subzero at gmail.com
Tue Aug 11 21:34:20 EDT 2009


I would suggest a mechanism to "export" all or just the selected SSB sites
and the "import" feature


Gary C Martin wrote:
> 
> On 11 Aug 2009, at 18:25, Eben Eliason wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Lucian
>> Branescu<lucian.branescu at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 2009/8/11 Simon Schampijer <simon at schampijer.de>:
>>>> On 08/11/2009 12:14 PM, Lucian Branescu wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> In fact, there is the option to install the SSB activity as well,
>>>>> http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/317039/create%20ssb.png
>>>>
>>>> Yes seen that.
>>>>
>>>>> rgs on IRC suggested that the 'Keep in Journal' button could either
>>>>> save an offline version by itself or there could be a drop down  
>>>>> with
>>>>> several options.
>>>>
>>>> Do you mean the activity keep button? Like the one in Write -  
>>>> where we have
>>>> the options to save a richt text format or others? If yes - yeah  
>>>> that sounds
>>>> like a good option actually.
>>>
>>> I'll go ahead and try to implement that, then.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> About modifying SSBs, right now all the tools for modification are
>>>>> inside the actul activity. I'd like to see modification of  
>>>>> userscripts
>>>>> and userstyles done in 'View Source' (as well).
>>>>
>>>> Oh, yeah view source. Sounds interesting to me, too. We just need  
>>>> to make
>>>> sure to not overload it. I mean editing text is easy. When it  
>>>> comes to
>>>> changing the icon it gets more complicated, though.
>>>
>>> Perhaps the Sugar shell should allow users to change activity icons?
>>
>> It's an unfortunate fact that there is no activity suitable for
>> creating SVG icons for Sugar. We need a "Draw" activity to fill this
>> gap and compliment Paint...
>>
>>> In any case, View Source already has Document view and Bundle view.  
>>> We
>>> could either expand Document view to have a TreeView on the left like
>>> Bundle view or create a separate Editables view.
>>
>> I hesitate to overload the view source mechanism this way, actually.
>> Should we instead be providing a seamless mechanism for modifying
>> code, icons, etc. with other activities, so that users (eventually)
>> have choices regarding their editors? View source is a logical step in
>> the process, so we should certainly expose the ability to launch into
>> editing from there, of course. I suppose an alternative argument can
>> be made for the level of integration we could provide when editing
>> within the view source dialog. If we could hook it up to have
>> "real-time" effect on the running activity, so that making a change
>> couldbe tested right away, that may make it worth doing...
> 
> If "View Source" makes it to "Edit Source", it could be reasonable to  
> expect that if you do modify and then close the source editor you  
> would raise an Activity like alert bar with something like "Activity  
> needs to re-start for changes to take effect (Discard changes) (Re- 
> start activity)". I understand that Guido van Rossum had some  
> proposals for Sugar to pick up live Python edit changes, but I guess  
> that's water long under the bridge now given current Sugar Labs  
> resources.
> 
> Regards,
> --Gary
> 
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