[Sugar-devel] Initial implementation of toolbars design

[Gary C Martin]

On 1 Aug 2009, at 14:51, Aleksey Lim wrote:

> On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 02:12:50PM +0100, Gary C Martin wrote:
>> On 31 Jul 2009, at 10:54, Simon Schampijer wrote:
>>
>>>> 1). I was hoping for more feedback before we lock things down,
>>>> but it's
>>>> been pretty quiet. I was hoping to hack TurtleArt with a temporary
>>>> toolbar imitation and get some real usability input from kids,
>>>> but not
>>>> sure we have the time?
>>>
>>> We land it today, Browse and Write are ready, so we can get
>>> feedback on them. From the schedule we still have a bit of time.
>>> So I am positive.
>>>
>>>> 2). Is it possible to have the "title entry" input field default
>>>> width
>>>> set to allow for 9 icons on the right (this is the maximum needed  
>>>> for
>>>> current Activity designs), then allow it scale down to some min
>>>> width if
>>>> extra icons are added? I would rather there was a little
>>>> flexibility in
>>>> the "title entry" rather than have the "Stop" and "Keep" buttons
>>>> be the
>>>> first to disappear.
>>>
>>> Looks like we are over this point, following the other discussions
>>> in this thread.
>>>
>>>> 3). FWIW, I'm considering the "share with" icon should really be
>>>> over on
>>>> the right (if sharing feature are present). So the far right
>>>> icon order
>>>> would be "share with", "keep version", "stop".
>>>
>>> Same here.
>>>
>>> Btw - we went at the moment for eben's design. Gary, we could use
>>> your design (with title entry in the top) and test it out, if you
>>> think it is worth doing comparing tests.
>>
>> Let's get feedback with what has been implemented so far and iterate
>> on it if there are agreed issues. My main concern at the moment is
>> that we have complicated the trivial Activity case, in that there is
>> no longer an option for just providing a single main toolbar. Every
>> Activity has to now deal with loss of canvas space and dynamic
>> resizing caused by the secondary activity toolbar design (that's one
>> reason I didn't like that path).
>>
>> Who is the poor soul that's going to have to sort out TamTamMini, I
>> vote for alsroot ;-b
>
> Well, I have around 14(including TamTamMini) activities on git.sl.o
> to switch to new toolbars.. so you can wish me luck.

Good luck!

Quick question: Are you going to try and support existing deployments  
and keep and maintain both toolbar implementations? That is certainly  
(but painfully) my plan, as that's where 99.9% of our users are. You  
might need to wish me luck as well, as I'm not half as code prolific  
as you ;-)

Regards,
--Gary