[Sugar-devel] Kartik - internship outside GSoC

[kartik rustagi]

> My own, completely personal opinion on dissimilar activity collaboration is
> that it is a solution searching for a problem. I understand that there are
> real use cases, but I haven't seen one that's nearly as compelling as the
> viral-activity idea (idea 2 of the ones I sent). This is just me commenting,
> I hope that others with opposing viewpoints will also comment.
>

If that is indeed the case then I will go with viral-activity idea. Any idea
who put up the dissimilar activity collaboration idea on the idea list.
Maybe he/she might have a different outlook towards it. Suggestions on this
are requested :)


> As to Groupthink, I think that it would be ill-advised to try to force you
> and Bemasc to work together without a very clear delineation of
> responsibility which minimizes dependencies. I also think it would be very
> hard to draw such a line, though you're welcome to prove me wrong on this
> latter point.
>

I completely agree with you. The reason why I mentioned Groupthink was
because I seriously appreciated it and wanted to do something like this for
Sugar (according to my capabilities).

Few more suggestions on the project idea and then I will start making the
proposal.


On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Jameson Quinn <jameson.quinn at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I hope we can do this for you, and would be really happy if it comes
>> > through. However, as much as it pains me, I think you will have to go
>> > through some of the application process over again. We don't need to
>> > interview you again, once is plenty and you did well. But we do need a
>> > specific proposal, with clear deliverables - which could easily take a
>> week
>> > or more for you to create - and then at least a few days for us to
>> evaluate
>> > the merits of such a proposal and our ability to support it. Otherwise,
>> how
>> > can we meaningfully evaluate whether you've "completed" your internship?
>> >
>> > I suspect that we'd be ready to accommodate whatever reasonable calendar
>> you
>> > set up for those steps.
>> >
>> > Jameson
>> >
>> > 2009/4/26 kartik rustagi <kashes911 at gmail.com>
>> >>
>> >> Hi David,
>> >> I talked to few of my seniors and the Training and Placement Cell at
>> >> my school and they told me that the only official letter I will be
>> >> needing are:
>> >> 1) 'Joining Letter' which will state the date I will be starting my
>> >> internship and my supervisor (mentor) at the organization. This letter
>> >> should preferably on the letter head of the organization or should
>> >> have some other kind of authentication.
>> >> 2)  And at the end of training I will need a completion certificate.
>> >>
>> >> I will scan and mail you the format of these documents, that will be
>> >> more convenient. The official period of the internship will start from
>> >> the last week of May after the university exams (going on right now).
>> >>
>> >> Delhi College of Engineering : www.dce.ac.in, www.dce.edu
>> >>
>> >> Regards
>> >> Kartik Rustagi
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:28 AM, David Farning <dfarning at sugarlabs.org
>> >
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Jameson Quinn <
>> jameson.quinn at gmail.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> Kartik,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I think we can definitely find a useful way for you to contribute
>> and
>> >> >> fulfill your internship requirements. You should write more about
>> what
>> >> >> kind
>> >> >> of project would interest you; the suggestions below focus more on
>> >> >> communications, because that's what I know as your expertise, but if
>> >> >> you are
>> >> >> interested in UI, security, graphics, or something else, there are
>> >> >> probably
>> >> >> other ideas for you.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'm not really the person to talk to about communications. I was
>> >> >> talking
>> >> >> with bemasc (benjamin schwartz, copied on this email) and we had two
>> >> >> ideas:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Some way of completing your original project idea without involving
>> >> >> Collabora/Telepathy too much. For instance, Bemasc mentioned Webdav,
>> >> >> but
>> >> >> said "The problem is that it has no (standardized or otherwise)
>> >> >> connection
>> >> >> to XMPP, so Collabora isn't much interested in shoving it into Salut
>> in
>> >> >> some
>> >> >> ad-hoc way.... So it would have to live outside of Salut, but still
>> ask
>> >> >> Salut for the IP address associated with a given contact, etc....
>> Maybe
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> could get its own Telepathy connection manager, but now this is
>> really
>> >> >> getting out of control." In other words, you'd have to have some
>> >> >> serious
>> >> >> conversations with him to redesign how this would work.
>> >> >> One part of the original sugar design that has never been realized
>> is
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> ability to share in activities without previously installing them on
>> >> >> your
>> >> >> machine. That would mean that whenever you joined a shared activity,
>> >> >> your
>> >> >> copy of sugar would automatically download, install, and run a copy
>> of
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> host's version of the activity. It would require having a way to
>> hash
>> >> >> activities; the ability to have more than one version of the same
>> >> >> activity
>> >> >> simultaneously installed and running; some policy for garbage
>> >> >> collecting old
>> >> >> installed activity versions; and teaching Sugar to appropriately use
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> existing file transfer mechanisms in telepathy. I suspect that this
>> >> >> project
>> >> >> would be more under your own control than your original proposal,
>> and I
>> >> >> think that the time is ripe for Sugar to grow this functionality.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> As to the paperwork for your internship requirements at your school,
>> >> >> Walter
>> >> >> Bender (also copied on this mail) has said he could probably help
>> you
>> >> >> with
>> >> >> that. Talk to him.
>> >> >
>> >> > Kartik,
>> >> > Do you have a contact at your school for handling the internship
>> >> > requirements?  If so, please have him contact us so we can insure
>> that
>> >> > the paper work is set up for you.
>> >> >
>> >> > thanks
>> >> > david
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hope this helps, and good luck!
>> >> >> Jameson
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 11:46 AM, kartik rustagi <
>> kashes911 at gmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Hi Jameson,
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Sorry for the late reply, I was out of station. First of all thanks
>> a
>> >> >>> lot for showing this gesture towards me, it really meant a lot. It
>> >> >>> would have been had I got through Gsoc but none the less my
>>  passion
>> >> >>> towards contributing to Sugar and open source in general still
>> >> >>> remains. Yes resume building was one of the reason for me to apply
>> for
>> >> >>> Gsoc, but along with that it would have served as an internship
>> that
>> >> >>> we must do in the coming months of June and July. I will have to
>> talk
>> >> >>> to college authority whether working for Sugar will do the job or
>> not.
>> >> >>> In the mean time can you please let me know the projects that have
>> >> >>> recently started or are yet to start and where I can fit in.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> --
>> >> >>> Regards
>> >> >>> Kartik Rustagi
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
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>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Regards
>> >> Kartik Rustagi
>> >
>> >
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>> --
>> Regards
>> Kartik Rustagi
>>
>>
>


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Regards
Kartik Rustagi
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