[Sugar-devel] Kartik - internship outside GSoC

[Jameson Quinn]

>
>
> Regarding my interests, it has always been towards networking and as much
> away from UI as I can :).  The areas I am interested in working includes
> communication or any other background improvements sugar requires. I was
> particularly impressed by Groupthink because it solves a core problem for
> sugar and I will definitely like to do some thing of this sort
> (research+implementation). I guess a lot of work will be done on Groupthink
> as a part of this year's Gsoc. Another research oriented project I found
> here <http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/DevelopmentTeam/ProjectIdeas> is the "Toolkit
> for dissimilar activity collaboration" idea. Can someone please update me on
> this and whether this will be an appropriate project to start for me and if
> I will have a mentor to assist me on this (high priority).


My own, completely personal opinion on dissimilar activity collaboration is
that it is a solution searching for a problem. I understand that there are
real use cases, but I haven't seen one that's nearly as compelling as the
viral-activity idea (idea 2 of the ones I sent). This is just me commenting,
I hope that others with opposing viewpoints will also comment.

As to Groupthink, I think that it would be ill-advised to try to force you
and Bemasc to work together without a very clear delineation of
responsibility which minimizes dependencies. I also think it would be very
hard to draw such a line, though you're welcome to prove me wrong on this
latter point.


>
> Regarding the two ideas listed in the earlier mail I will be more inclined
> towards the second one, but my priority will go towards the one I mentioned
> above. One thing which I will prefer to be their in my project is that it
> should fall completely within Sugar and will require less dependence on any
> other organization. Please take this factor in consideration too when you
> comment on any project idea.
>

I think that the viral activity idea could be a good fit for you. It
certainly looks as if it falls entirely inside Sugar, relying on only
existing functionality from Telepathy.


>
> Thanks for this gesture, I seriously appreciate this.
>

The least we could do, in the circumstances.

Jameson


>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Jameson Quinn <jameson.quinn at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I hope we can do this for you, and would be really happy if it comes
> > through. However, as much as it pains me, I think you will have to go
> > through some of the application process over again. We don't need to
> > interview you again, once is plenty and you did well. But we do need a
> > specific proposal, with clear deliverables - which could easily take a
> week
> > or more for you to create - and then at least a few days for us to
> evaluate
> > the merits of such a proposal and our ability to support it. Otherwise,
> how
> > can we meaningfully evaluate whether you've "completed" your internship?
> >
> > I suspect that we'd be ready to accommodate whatever reasonable calendar
> you
> > set up for those steps.
> >
> > Jameson
> >
> > 2009/4/26 kartik rustagi <kashes911 at gmail.com>
> >>
> >> Hi David,
> >> I talked to few of my seniors and the Training and Placement Cell at
> >> my school and they told me that the only official letter I will be
> >> needing are:
> >> 1) 'Joining Letter' which will state the date I will be starting my
> >> internship and my supervisor (mentor) at the organization. This letter
> >> should preferably on the letter head of the organization or should
> >> have some other kind of authentication.
> >> 2)  And at the end of training I will need a completion certificate.
> >>
> >> I will scan and mail you the format of these documents, that will be
> >> more convenient. The official period of the internship will start from
> >> the last week of May after the university exams (going on right now).
> >>
> >> Delhi College of Engineering : www.dce.ac.in, www.dce.edu
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Kartik Rustagi
> >>
> >> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:28 AM, David Farning <dfarning at sugarlabs.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> > On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Jameson Quinn <
> jameson.quinn at gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> Kartik,
> >> >>
> >> >> I think we can definitely find a useful way for you to contribute and
> >> >> fulfill your internship requirements. You should write more about
> what
> >> >> kind
> >> >> of project would interest you; the suggestions below focus more on
> >> >> communications, because that's what I know as your expertise, but if
> >> >> you are
> >> >> interested in UI, security, graphics, or something else, there are
> >> >> probably
> >> >> other ideas for you.
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm not really the person to talk to about communications. I was
> >> >> talking
> >> >> with bemasc (benjamin schwartz, copied on this email) and we had two
> >> >> ideas:
> >> >>
> >> >> Some way of completing your original project idea without involving
> >> >> Collabora/Telepathy too much. For instance, Bemasc mentioned Webdav,
> >> >> but
> >> >> said "The problem is that it has no (standardized or otherwise)
> >> >> connection
> >> >> to XMPP, so Collabora isn't much interested in shoving it into Salut
> in
> >> >> some
> >> >> ad-hoc way.... So it would have to live outside of Salut, but still
> ask
> >> >> Salut for the IP address associated with a given contact, etc....
> Maybe
> >> >> it
> >> >> could get its own Telepathy connection manager, but now this is
> really
> >> >> getting out of control." In other words, you'd have to have some
> >> >> serious
> >> >> conversations with him to redesign how this would work.
> >> >> One part of the original sugar design that has never been realized is
> >> >> the
> >> >> ability to share in activities without previously installing them on
> >> >> your
> >> >> machine. That would mean that whenever you joined a shared activity,
> >> >> your
> >> >> copy of sugar would automatically download, install, and run a copy
> of
> >> >> the
> >> >> host's version of the activity. It would require having a way to hash
> >> >> activities; the ability to have more than one version of the same
> >> >> activity
> >> >> simultaneously installed and running; some policy for garbage
> >> >> collecting old
> >> >> installed activity versions; and teaching Sugar to appropriately use
> >> >> the
> >> >> existing file transfer mechanisms in telepathy. I suspect that this
> >> >> project
> >> >> would be more under your own control than your original proposal, and
> I
> >> >> think that the time is ripe for Sugar to grow this functionality.
> >> >>
> >> >> As to the paperwork for your internship requirements at your school,
> >> >> Walter
> >> >> Bender (also copied on this mail) has said he could probably help you
> >> >> with
> >> >> that. Talk to him.
> >> >
> >> > Kartik,
> >> > Do you have a contact at your school for handling the internship
> >> > requirements?  If so, please have him contact us so we can insure that
> >> > the paper work is set up for you.
> >> >
> >> > thanks
> >> > david
> >> >
> >> >> Hope this helps, and good luck!
> >> >> Jameson
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 11:46 AM, kartik rustagi <
> kashes911 at gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Hi Jameson,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Sorry for the late reply, I was out of station. First of all thanks
> a
> >> >>> lot for showing this gesture towards me, it really meant a lot. It
> >> >>> would have been had I got through Gsoc but none the less my  passion
> >> >>> towards contributing to Sugar and open source in general still
> >> >>> remains. Yes resume building was one of the reason for me to apply
> for
> >> >>> Gsoc, but along with that it would have served as an internship that
> >> >>> we must do in the coming months of June and July. I will have to
> talk
> >> >>> to college authority whether working for Sugar will do the job or
> not.
> >> >>> In the mean time can you please let me know the projects that have
> >> >>> recently started or are yet to start and where I can fit in.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> Regards
> >> >>> Kartik Rustagi
> >> >>
> >> >>
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> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards
> >> Kartik Rustagi
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Regards
> Kartik Rustagi
>
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