[Sugar-devel] SoaS on XO issues for discussion
dfarning at sugarlabs.org
Fri Apr 24 00:04:48 EDT 2009
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Martin Dengler
<martin at martindengler.com> wrote:
> Sebastian and I had a discussion about SoaS builds being used on XOs.
> We wonder if anyone has any feedback or guidance on issues around SoaS
> builds being used on (the NAND of) XOs, like:
> * Should SoaS2's software artifacts include a XO-1 NAND .img/crc file?
> * Should Soas2's software artifacts include non-Fedora (that is,
> non-upstream) bits or yum repositories? For example: a) OLPC kernel
> (2.6.25); or b) Via wireless drivers?
In order to succeed Sugar Labs must stay focused solely on the
portions of the 'stack' from the learning platform and up. If Sugar
Labs gets that portion of the stack right, the distributions and
hardware resellers will have incentive to make a complete
hardware/distro/learning platform product.
> * Should an olpc-update-like mechanism be supported?
Again, this is a distribution level issue. The various distribution
have spent years developing update mechanisms. Does Sugar Labs have a
strong enough reason to reinvent that wheel?
Update mechanisms are very attractive for developers and technologist.
But they are very ugly to deployments and teachers. Once deployed, a
school will expect a server/desktop 'package' to last 3 years before
being touched again. Schools just don't have more time to spend on
FWIW, *oaS is fundamentally a disto level technology. SoaS just
happens to run Sugar as the UI. I would not be surprised if
*-live-usb replace *-live-cd as the primary form of distribution by
Fedora 13 and Ubuntu 10.4.
The price of usbs is dropping.
Then number of machine which boot from usb is increasing.
SoaS is helping push the state of live usbs rapidly.
> We put together a bit of detail about those question and a record of
> our initial discussion at:
> Comments welcome.
> PS: The discussion is particularly relevant for me because OLPC UK is
> lending out XO-1s and I'd like to have a recent Sugar version on them.
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