[Sugar-devel] webified and google gears

[David Van Assche]

ok, here's what I've found so far... I'll keep looking for the actual
spec file. I dont even know if this works, its been a while since I
looked into this...

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Lucian Branescu
<lucian.branescu at gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't have experience with rpm, but since much of the work is
> already done, I guess packaging it wouldn't be a problem. Especially
> since it would only be necessary after the SSB actually works,
> although earlier can't hurt.
>
> 2009/4/14 Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org>:
>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 21:42, David Van Assche <dvanassche at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I can send over what I have... I had the rpm source file somewhere...
>>> I can look for it if there is interest...
>>
>> Yes please, the .spec file will be a good step forward.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Tomeu
>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Lucian Branescu
>>> <lucian.branescu at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 2009/4/14 Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org>:
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 20:19, Lucian Branescu
>>>>> <lucian.branescu at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Gears is just a XUL extension, packaging shouldn't be a problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> You mean you are volunteering to package it? ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> David Van Assche already worked on it and got it pretty much working,
>>>>> but it never was submitted to fedora. Would you like to finish this
>>>>> work?
>>>>>
>>>>> Packaging work might not seem too challenging, but consumes quite a
>>>>> bit of time and is crucially important for projects like Sugar.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'll have to look into that, then.
>>>>
>>>>>> Also,
>>>>>> it does not require sync-ing state, web apps can store everything in
>>>>>> Gears and work in offline mode. Gears provides some integration with
>>>>>> the desktop (which can simply be ignored, it's mostly desktop
>>>>>> shortcuts and the like), an SQLite database accesible from JS and a
>>>>>> Worker (thread-like) object.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sounds good.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Using existing web technologies and standards (de facto or not) is
>>>>>> very valuable, especially for my case. I don't want to invent any new
>>>>>> technologies or techniques, just to provide a simple Site Specific
>>>>>> Browser. If I were to do so, existing web apps would have to be
>>>>>> modified and new ones would be unusual from the POV of web developers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Agreed.
>>>>>
>>>>>> For Journal integration, the entire Gears database could be store in
>>>>>> the DataStore.
>>>>>
>>>>> That would work fine, only that for example a karmized web app that
>>>>> processes images might make more sense to write a png file, so other
>>>>> activities can open it. But I don't think it's a critical point.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Desktop module in Gears can access local files, with permission
>>>> from the user. So a Gears web app that deals with files should be able
>>>> to do this.
>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Tomeu
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> 2009/4/14 Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org>:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I like your proposal because focuses on a problem interesting to the
>>>>>>> Sugar community and because proposes a solution that is reasonable
>>>>>>> enough to be implemented in the GSoC timeframe.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But the mention of google gears concerns me a bit, since no
>>>>>>> distribution that I know is packaging it and because AFAIK it would be
>>>>>>> sync'ing state between local storage and a remote server when
>>>>>>> activities are supposed to be storing it's whole state to the journal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From my current POV, may be better to provide a (XPCOM?) component
>>>>>>> accessible from JS that provides DataStore integration. I think it
>>>>>>> could be fairly simple to do with hulahop.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On the other hand, we should really find a way to have Google Gears
>>>>>>> installed alongside Sugar because many interesting sites require it,
>>>>>>> but it may be out of scope form your proposal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tomeu
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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