[Sugar-devel] webified and google gears

[David Van Assche]

I can send over what I have... I had the rpm source file somewhere...
I can look for it if there is interest...

David

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Lucian Branescu
<lucian.branescu at gmail.com> wrote:
> 2009/4/14 Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org>:
>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 20:19, Lucian Branescu
>> <lucian.branescu at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Gears is just a XUL extension, packaging shouldn't be a problem.
>>
>> You mean you are volunteering to package it? ;)
>>
>> David Van Assche already worked on it and got it pretty much working,
>> but it never was submitted to fedora. Would you like to finish this
>> work?
>>
>> Packaging work might not seem too challenging, but consumes quite a
>> bit of time and is crucially important for projects like Sugar.
>>
>
> I'll have to look into that, then.
>
>>> Also,
>>> it does not require sync-ing state, web apps can store everything in
>>> Gears and work in offline mode. Gears provides some integration with
>>> the desktop (which can simply be ignored, it's mostly desktop
>>> shortcuts and the like), an SQLite database accesible from JS and a
>>> Worker (thread-like) object.
>>
>> Sounds good.
>>
>>> Using existing web technologies and standards (de facto or not) is
>>> very valuable, especially for my case. I don't want to invent any new
>>> technologies or techniques, just to provide a simple Site Specific
>>> Browser. If I were to do so, existing web apps would have to be
>>> modified and new ones would be unusual from the POV of web developers.
>>
>> Agreed.
>>
>>> For Journal integration, the entire Gears database could be store in
>>> the DataStore.
>>
>> That would work fine, only that for example a karmized web app that
>> processes images might make more sense to write a png file, so other
>> activities can open it. But I don't think it's a critical point.
>>
>
> The Desktop module in Gears can access local files, with permission
> from the user. So a Gears web app that deals with files should be able
> to do this.
>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Tomeu
>>
>>
>>> 2009/4/14 Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org>:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I like your proposal because focuses on a problem interesting to the
>>>> Sugar community and because proposes a solution that is reasonable
>>>> enough to be implemented in the GSoC timeframe.
>>>>
>>>> But the mention of google gears concerns me a bit, since no
>>>> distribution that I know is packaging it and because AFAIK it would be
>>>> sync'ing state between local storage and a remote server when
>>>> activities are supposed to be storing it's whole state to the journal.
>>>>
>>>> From my current POV, may be better to provide a (XPCOM?) component
>>>> accessible from JS that provides DataStore integration. I think it
>>>> could be fairly simple to do with hulahop.
>>>>
>>>> On the other hand, we should really find a way to have Google Gears
>>>> installed alongside Sugar because many interesting sites require it,
>>>> but it may be out of scope form your proposal.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Tomeu
>>>>
>>>
>>
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