[Sugar-devel] Unified bundles
Carol Farlow Lerche
cafl at msbit.com
Thu Apr 9 18:00:51 EDT 2009
It appears that Sayamindu's fbreader activity isn't in ASLO. Since it
supports many additional formats (including epub, which I just uploaded a
bundle full of), is there any plan to make this activity work on the SOAS
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 2:52 PM, James Simmons <jim.simmons at walgreens.com>wrote:
> One thing that I hope Unified Bundles will do is make ebooks more like
> real books. In a real library you have books with pictures, books with
> just words, comic books, coloring books, and books with things that pop
> up when you open them. All are recognizable as books. On the XO it
> should be the same way. Whether an etext is DJVU, or plain text, or
> Flash it should be recognizable to the child as a book. He shouldn't
> have to think about how he'll go about reading it. He should be able to
> just launch it without being burdened with knowing how it is launched.
> This would mean you would have just one icon to indicate a book in
> either the journal or the activity ring, probably the one Read has now.
> The various viewers should try to be consistent, but may deviate when it
> makes sense to. Some kinds of books with let you copy text to the
> clipboard or have text to speech with highlighting, and some won't, just
> like some kinds of books have pop-ups or have characters speak in word
> balloons and others don't.
> I wrote my own Activities because I tried converting Gutenberg etexts to
> PDFs and didn't like the results. I was hoping that Read would handle
> more formats than it does, and it was easier to make my own specialized
> Activities in Python than it would have been to make Evince plugins,
> etc. I thought that in time somebody would make Read do more formats.
> If the download counts from http://activities.sugarlabs.org are anything
> to go by my Activities are pretty popular. I think that says more about
> the popularity of the formats they support than the quality of the
> Activities themselves, and I would guess it is adults who are doing the
> downloading. Adults have been trained by Microsoft Office to use
> different programs for different kinds of documents, so using a
> different Activity for plain text files than you use for PDFs is
> something adults are willing to put up with. A kid shouldn't have to
> deal with that unless he's creating his own books.
> Maybe in the future Read Etexts and View Slides could become tools to
> actually create content, in the form of Unified Bundles. A teacher
> could go to Gutenberg to get an etext in Zip format, load it into Read
> Etexts to have a look at it, then have the Activity create a new Journal
> entry which is a bundle. She could then use the Journal to share the
> bundle with her class.
> To the kids the bundle would be just a book.
> James Simmons
> Wade Brainerd wrote:
> > Good question.. My proposal is that activities which don't allow the
> > creation of brand new content (e.g. they require some initial content
> > to be used) become Content Viewers which is a special case of
> > Activity.
> > As it stands, I'm not sure whether they need to be merged into Sugar
> > or whether they can exist independently, with some sort of "This
> > bundle requires the Read Content Viewer".
> > My initial instinct was that they should be merged into Sugar. But
> > now, given the inspiring "Unified objects" thread, I kind of think
> > they should be allowed to remain separate.
> > -Wade
> > On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 4:58 PM, James Simmons <jim.simmons at walgreens.com>
> >> Wade,
> >> Thanks for your response. It clears up a lot now that I have a better
> >> of the purpose of Unified bundles. There is still one question I have,
> >> which is what becomes of Activities in this scenario? For instance, if
> >> have a bundle containing a PDF, what happens to the Read activity to
> >> that possible? Does code from Read move out of the Activity and become
> >> of Sugar? What's left in Read if you do that? Or does Read go away?
> >> James Simmons
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