[Sugar-devel] Local static page, final call for edits (Re: [RELEASE] Browse-106)

Tomeu Vizoso tomeu at sugarlabs.org
Thu Apr 2 13:29:43 EDT 2009


On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 19:22, Eben Eliason <eben at laptop.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Gary C Martin <gary at garycmartin.com> wrote:
>> On 2 Apr 2009, at 17:16, Eben Eliason wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Gary C Martin <gary at garycmartin.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 2 Apr 2009, at 10:50, Martin Langhoff wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:08 AM, Gary C Martin <gary at garycmartin.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry to rush on this, but barring objections, I get the feeling
>>>>>> this is
>>>>>> getting close to happening in the next 24hrs...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  http://dev.sugarlabs.org/attachment/ticket/645/simple_static_page_v3.png
>>>>>
>>>>> Objection! :-) Please re-add the link to 'Local Schoolserver'.
>>>>
>>>> OK :-)
>>>>
>>>> Silly question, so I've added a link to http://schoolserver/ which
>>>> will be a broken link unless you are in a school environment with a
>>>> school server set to that name. Could distros (like SoaS, or XO
>>>> targeted builds), change the resolution order through /etc/host.conf
>>>> (maybe also /etc/nsswitch.conf) so that the check for schoolserver go
>>>> first to a dns server? If that fails to resolve, a local host file
>>>> entry could then try to go to the schools moodle server at
>>>> http://schools.sugarlabs.org/
>>>
>>> We should really start referring to this as the "collaboration
>>> server", especially if we're going to include it as a link available
>>> in all distributions/environments. Ideally, we'd fall back to some
>>> page which describes the benefits of having a collaboration server and
>>> point to links for setting one up, if there isn't one available. I
>>> have no idea how to do that.
>>
>> I went for "school", didn't really want the top right links turning into war
>> and peace like some of our other pages have (wiki is especially bad, you
>> need a wide screen to view them all!) ;-)
>>
>> So... Eben/Martin is it to be "school" or "collaboration"?
>
> I'd definitely vote for "collaboration" myself, but I'll defer to
> Martin. The general idea here is to prevent future confusion, since
> the server needn't be tied to a school for any technological reasons.
> That's certainly a prominent case, but these servers are being run in
> many other contexts as well, and in the future, there may even be a
> facility for selecting your collaboration server among several.
>
> Although, thinking about this again, this wouldn't be a hard coded
> value. This would be the server chosen in the network settings. So I
> guess I'm confused about what this hard-coded url actually is. If it
> really is something that's specific to schools with OLPC deployments,
> then it shouldn't be part of the SugarLabs start page; it should be
> part of the OLPC distribution only.

My understanding is that we are going to be interested in providing
other sugar-specific services than collaboration in a server, like
backups.

Regards,

Tomeu

> Eben
>
>> And yes, colours do roll through the 12 sets (though that does eat 100Kb on
>> png logos), "home" does link to www.sugarlabs.org, and the css rollover
>> inverted style matches Christian's design.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> --Gary
>>
>>> - Eben
>>>
>>>> Hmmm, I guess that's going to mess with browser cookies, but just
>>>> thought I'd raise the question.
>>>>
>>>> I might look at some other old html tricks (but not for this release)
>>>> that could avoid the broken link. Some dhtml tricks might work hiding
>>>> the potential error page in a hidden frame and auto switching to the
>>>> public server URL if the local URL fails.
>>>>
>>>>> BTW, did you mean to CC the list? We've dropped to a private thread...
>>>>
>>>> Ooops, back on list.
>>>>
>>>> --G
>>>>
>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> m
>>>>> --
>>>>> martin.langhoff at gmail.com
>>>>> martin at laptop.org -- School Server Architect
>>>>> - ask interesting questions
>>>>> - don't get distracted with shiny stuff  - working code first
>>>>> - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff
>>>>
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