[sugar] Sugar USB testing

[Marco Pesenti Gritti]

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Caroline Meeks
<caroline at solutiongrove.com> wrote:
> Just downloaded. Will burn a CD shortly and test on the machines I have here
> before I leave for the weekend. I'll be back Tuesday.
>
> What is the process of going from a CD to a USB?

Right now I think the only way is to run a command on a Fedora box.
Something like this.

livecd-iso-to-disk --overlay-size-mb 512
livecd-fedora-livecd-sugar-200810091224.iso /dev/sdb1

There is  also a tool for Windows, Sebastian is working on getting it to work.

>> > Boot Helper CD
>>
>> Do you have any pointer about this? I can look at it and see what it
>> would take to make it work with Fedora liveusb.
>
> ftp://ftp.slax.org/SLAX-6.x/slax-boot-usb-from-cd-6.0.7.iso
>
> and our discussion on it:
> http://www.slax.org/forum.php?action=view&parentID=21028

Thanks, I'll look at it.

>>
>> > Instructions on how to add an Apps such as GIMP
>>
>> Sugar support for normal desktop applications is suboptimal at the
>> moment. We are working to address it properly in this release cycle.
>> Admittedly GIMP is probably the hardest application to handle, because
>> of his unusual windows model.
>>
>> In the meantime it's possible to use the X activity to run gimp:
>>
>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/X_Activity
>>
>> And yeah writing instructions of how to get gimp to work using this
>> approach should not be hard.
>
> Cool, should be good enough for now.  I was impressed at the "iphone app
> store" mentality.  They all immediately wanted to install apps on it.  I
> think this is a great thing and a great path towards getting students to
> create apps.  But this is a long term issue, not something to be solved this
> month.

There are a lot of activities that can be downloaded and installed
(with a single click) from http://wiki.laptop.org/Activities

>>
>>
>> > A Jabber Server for them to collaborate (nice to have)
>>
>> David might have better insight than me on this one, since he is
>> working on sorting out Sugar Labs infrastructure. OLPC is also working
>> on setting up a server I think, so using that one is another
>> possibility.
>
> I may have the resources to do this, I'll talk to the sysadmin I work with.

Note that Sugar requires a special jabber server. I'm ccing morgs
which could give you more informations on this.

It's also possible to collaborate without a server on the local
network, but it doesn't scale much. Still could be a way to at least
show the collaboration features.

> Longer term, I have a vision of having hundreds of middle and high school
> developed country service+technology oriented kids with Sugar.  Someone
> comes out with a new app or a new release and they want it tested they put
> it out to this list and get quick feedback.  These kids are also a potential
> grassroots marketing arm into the elementary schools as we encourage them to
> demo to their old teachers.

I had more or less your same vision when I read your blog post :)

Marco