[sugar] saving files (was Re: notes from the field - Mongolia)

[Ed McNierney]

Tomeu et al. -

Thanks - these are very good questions and are definitely on the right  
path (that path being, "what exactly do we need to do about it?").  It  
is not obvious to me from this thread whether the user goal is XO-to- 
XO file transfer or XO-to-other-computer file transfer.  Do we know  
that?

	- Ed

P.S. And I'm not overlooking the "I want to save things on my USB  
stick because I think it's safer/more secure" aspect.  But that usage  
and the XO-to-XO usage only require information in any XO-readable  
format, whereas the XO-to-other-computer case has other issues.

On Oct 10, 2008, at 9:17 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 7:14 PM, elana langer  
> <elana.langer at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hey Tomeu-
>>
>> By "file" I mean the product of their work - in write a document, in
>> record a picture, in etoys a project etc. They want to save what they
>> do in a "traditional" way.
>
> How would you change Sugar so that these users can do what they want
> and save what they do in a traditional way?
>
> Please have patience while I make these questions even if they sound
> stupid to you. I'm trying to understand what can be done from the
> feedback you give and there's still some work to do to get to
> actionable items.
>
>> Now when I mean 'they' I am referring
>> mostly to teachers or teacher trainers. But i think we need to face
>> the reality that because we want these computers to be used within as
>> a tool to reform formal educational we need to consider that teachers
>> are going to work on the computers too.
>
> I think we all agree with this.
>
>> They also really want to guide
>> the students - when it is hard for them to find their own work they
>> panic. Also when they finish their work and want to share it with
>> others or upload it from a computer that has connectivity they find  
>> it
>> near impossible to move their work to a USB key.
>
> Which are the difficulties with moving data to an usb key? If they
> drag an entry from the main journal to the usb stick icon in the lower
> bar, the file doesn't get copied correctly?
>
>> I don't have enough
>> data from kids trying to do the same yet but hopefully I will see  
>> what
>> they do in the next weeks.
>
> Awesome, look forward for more feedback from you.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tomeu
>
>
>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 5:04 AM, Tomeu Vizoso  
>> <tomeu at tomeuvizoso.net> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 5:20 PM, elana langer  
>>> <elana.langer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 2) Can't save files - this should probably be the first item on my
>>>> list. It drives teachers and students crazy. They make something  
>>>> in an
>>>> application, take some pictures or write something and then have  
>>>> to go
>>>> through a really tough process to find it and save it on an  
>>>> external
>>>> drive.
>>>
>>> Can you explain what do you mean by saving files?
>>>
>>> Which are the problems when trying to find a "file"? Do you have any
>>> suggestion to improve the process?
>>>
>>> Once the file is found, which are the problems that kids have when
>>> trying to copy it to an external drive? Any suggestion?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Tomeu
>>>
>>
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