[sugar] Sugar USB testing
pgf at laptop.org
pgf
Tue Oct 7 22:02:57 EDT 2008
marco pesenti gritti wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com> wrote:
> > CCing the Sugar list.
and adding devel.
> >
> > It seems that one of the problems we will be encountering with generic
> > spins is footprint. Even a standard Ubuntu without Sugar was seeming
> > too fat to load from a LiveCD on a Pentium 4 with 256K of DRAM.
>
> I'm planning to dogfood the Fedora LiveUSB and I'll have a look to
> memory usage while doing so. In principle, unless there are relevant
> memory costs given by running on a LiveUSB, I'd expect it to work
> decently.
i've been curious for a while -- can we have a show of hands for
how many people dogfood the existing XO s/w?
for my part, i don't, to the extent that i yum-install xfce and
run that. so there's little memory pressure, and i don't run
activities, nor networkmanager. but i'm still running the kernel
and most of the system software. i can quickly switch to running
sugar, and i do, when i discover something that i think needs
investigating on a more "real" installation. i think even my
limited "dogfooding" has been useful -- the bugs i've found or
helped diagnose have tended to be power management issues, and
some yum package management issues.
i _really_ think we need to make the XO base _and_ sugar be a
place that developers are comfortable living in. our needs
aren't quite the same as a school kid's, but i think there's a
much bigger overlap than we often think. with the advent of the
fedora spin we're going to lose xo/sugar mindshare among our
g1g1 and development users [1], and i think we need to think
seriously about taking up that slack. even if that means adding
some "poweruser"-centric features which a grade-schooler would
probably never use, it's worth considering, in return for the
increased focus, and yes, discomfort it may cause.
paul
[1] but i think we'll gain in overall project mindshare, so in net
i'm in favor of it.
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paul fox, pgf at laptop.org
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