[sugar] Problems with mesh OLPC Sur list / problemas con la malla

[Yama Ploskonka]

Hi y'all, I am double posting for I do not know whose fish this is.

A teacher in Uruguay indicates issues with operating with mesh, two 
others confirmed they had a similar experience of random connectivity.

Please help, either subscribe to OLPC-Sur to answer in Spanish or 
respond through either list or personally and I will translate back.

Yama
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Translation of the original message:

The problem I was mentioning is that we know the mesh in itself to work, 
what we have not been able to do is to achieve a collaborative activity 
such as you are supposed to be able to.
Chat works perfectly, I connect, I see who is in the neighborhood, I 
invite that person and we chat; but it is very difficult with other 
activities.
The connection is very unstable and in a group with 15-20 children there 
is always a couple XO that will not connect or they don't see the rest 
even if they are connected.  We have solved this by working by pairs, 
but if it is supposed that the plan is one computer per child, what is 
proper is that each one have one, isn't it?
As a sidenote, I am writing from the XO, two blocks from my house there 
is a school that has un punto de acceso, I am lucky I can connect!!!


In the neighborhood you can see 3 points of the mesh (I do not know if 
that is what you call them, doesn't matter) 1, 6, 11.  Generally 
connection works on 1.  After this is established, it lasts less than 
half an hour and it breaks, or some XO disconnect.
I want to make clear that even though the connection is random, I can 
choose on what mesh to connect by clicking on that point, it takes a few 
minutes but you can do it.

Questions:
Do you know how far this can be done?
Are the numbers related to that radius?
Why do those XOs that are in one mesh see each other but not those in 
another?
It would be good that all the people who are connected see each other 
and the different points act as bridges to gather those who are farther 
away.
In the classroom not all can connect to the same mesh so it is 
impossible to achieve a shared project.
Another matter is that, suppose we can connect several people, chat or 
talk works impeccably but when we try to share activities that are like 
more complex such as Paint or Write (don't even mention eToys) all gets 
much more difficult.

greeTings

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original message follows > El problema al que hac?a referencia es que 
conocemos el funcionamiento
> de la malla en s?, lo que no hemos podido lograr es realizar una
> actividad colaborativa tal como se supone que deber?a ser.
> El chat funciona perfectamente. me conecto, veo qui?n est? en el
> vecindario, lo invito y charlamos; pero es muy dif?cil con las otras
> actividades.
> La conexi?n es muy inesatable y en un grupo de 15 o 20 ni?os siempre
> hay un par de xo que no se conectan o no ven a las dem?s aunque est?n
> conectadas. Lo hemos solucionado trabajando en duplas, pero si se
> supone que el plan es una compu por ni?o, lo correcto ser?a que cada
> uno tenga la suya no?
> Comento que estoy escribiendo desde la olpc, a 2 cuadras de mi casa
> hay una escuela que tiene un access point, por suerte me puedo
> conectar!!!

> En el vecindario se ven 3 puntos de malla (no s? si as? se llaman, no
> importa) la 1, la 6 y la 11. Por lo general la conexi?n se logra en la
> 1. Luego de establecida la misma, dura menos de media hora y se corta,
> o se desconectan algunas xo.
> Quiero aclarar que si bien la conexi?n es aleatoria, puedo elegir en
> qu? malla conectarme haciendo clic en el punto, toma unos minutos pero
> se logra.
> 
> Preguntasss:
> Saben en qu? radio de distancia funciona?
> Los n?meros se relacionan con este radio?
> Por qu? se ven entre s? las xo que est?n en la misma malla y no ven a
> las que est?n en las otras?
> Estar?a bueno que se vieran todas las personas conectadas y que los
> diferentes puntos hicieran de puente para captar a los que est?n m?s
> lejos.
> En el aula no todos pueden conectarse a la misma entonces es imposible
> realizar un trabajo compartido.
> Otro aspecto es que supongamos que logramos conectarnos una cuantas
> personas, el chat o charla funciona impecable pero cuando intentamos
> compartir actividades si se quiere m?s complejas como Pintar o
> Escribir (ni que hablar de Etoys), todo se dificulta.
> 
> Salu2