[sugar] Resp.: the ring
Eduardo H Silva
Wed May 7 16:36:47 EDT 2008
What about copying the main XO palette to our XO icon in the buddy
part of the frame? It isn't used for anything else.
2008/5/7, Eben Eliason <eben.eliason at gmail.com>:
> On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Mikus Grinbergs <mikus at bga.com> wrote:
> > > It was terrible to lose the pie chart for resource usage.
> > > That was very useful for both developers and kids.
> > Was indication (by the ring) of resource usage actually released to
> > users? My G1G1 showed only fixed-width pie slices.
> It never shipped because the information was never accurate enough to
> be meaningful. In fact, it was most times confusing. It is
> unfortunate that we lost this (potential) means of conveying more
> info, but I think the new designs gain us a lot over the previous
> version in terms of usability.
> > Here is an opportunity for a new "user-information" Activity.
> > A 'log viewer' already exists; why not a 'resource viewer'?
> I think this is what the Analyze activity is supposed to be
> about...it's a tool for looking at all the technical "goings on" of
> the laptop. I think there are a few sections within that activity,
> and if none of them currently cover this particular resource viewer,
> we should certainly add it to the list.
> > > The new design makes the loss permanent, while
> > > still keeping a visual design that no longer makes any sense.
> > I like the new design. I can choose which Activity-icons are shown
> > by the ring. That means I have to go into the 'list' view much less
> > often than in the old design I had to "scroll" its Activity-icons.
> > Also, as others have mentioned, the currently "running" Activities
> > can be seen (or switched to) anytime by bringing up the Frame --
> > without having to EXIT the current screen to bring up Home view.
> These are both big wins for the new design in my mind, and have made
> my interactions with Sugar much more pleasant since I've been using
> the new builds. Two other advantages are the placement of the devices
> in the Frame for easy at-a-glance access, as well as the new [people,
> places, objects, and devices] edges of the Frame which will support
> the forthcoming notification system.
> > p.s. I see that the *order* of the icons in the ring can change
> > when Sugar is restarted. I liked it that in the old design
> > I could manually adjust the ordering of the Activity-icons.
> Really? File that one in track ASAP, as that's clearly an undesired
> behavior. The ring should remain fixed so that kids can recall from
> memory where to find the one they are looking for.
> Reordering of activities within the ring via drag'n'drop is something
> I wholly support, but something I doubt will happen in the short term
> since there are many more important bugs to fix. This actually came
> up when I discussed the new designs with Jim yesterday, and it was
> flagged as a great community project, since we have no dependency on
> it working but would love to see someone take a stab at it!
> > pps. The 'list' view appears to not include a Shutdown entry.
> > If my last use of Activity Management was in 'list', F3 takes
> > an extra click (to switch to 'ring') to get to Shutdown.
> This is true, but I'm not sure I have a better solution than the extra
> click at the moment. I do like the association of those machine
> management controls with the XO, and we couldn't come up with a
> reasonable way to include the XO in a list view. Of course, we expect
> that true shutdowns will be limited in practice, so it's not something
> I'm personally that concerned about at the moment.
> - Eben
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