[sugar] New joyride build 2258 (Eben Eliason)

[Eben Eliason]

On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Greg Smith <gregsmitholpc at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> +1 on not reaching out over the network or doing anything without user
> input.
>
> I'm also nervous about the software update icon in the control panel
> going out over the network and doing something immediately after you
> click and before you do anything else with the Update interface. Is
> there any precedent or guidelines on what happens first after you choose
> a Sugar Control Panel option?

These are usually implemented in 1 of 2 ways.  It may be implemented
as a menu item titled "Check for updates" or similar, which makes the
desire to actually initiate the action implicit in selecting it. It
can also be implemented as a control panel module, in which case
there's usually a "Check now" button, in addition to information such
as the time/date of the last successful update, and options to set up
automatic update checks.

In our case, we do offer a "Cancel" button, which would prevent this
update scenario from taking over the system/bandwidth completely.
However, a "Check now" button would also work just fine.

- Eben

> Has anyone tested the SW updater control panel over low-BW or offline?
>
> I'd rather see it land on a nice GUI that explains what will happen and
> gives you the option to click and check for the latest activities.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg S
>
>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:47:42 -0400
>> From: "Eben Eliason" <eben.eliason at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [sugar] New joyride build 2258
>> Cc: Sugar Mailing List <sugar at lists.laptop.org>, devel at laptop.org
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>> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 7:10 AM, Build Announcer v2 <reinier at heeres.eu> wrote:
>>> --- Changes for sugar 0.81.8-2.20080806git0fc57309f3.olpc3 from 0.81.8-1.fc9 ---
>>>  + 7495 open cp software-updater on first boot after an update
>>
>> I don't want this!  I keep shouting about it and no one seems to be
>> listening!  Home absolutely needs to be home base, especially after an
>> update.  I'm fine with tossing up a non-modal alert at boot which
>> prompts the user to update right away, with a button which reveals the
>> software update control panel module, but I'm NOT OK with anything
>> which, unbeknownst to the user, flits them away to some other part of
>> the system without his/her consent.
>>
>> - Eben
>>
>>
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>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 15:57:31 +0200
>> From: "Christoph Derndorfer" <christoph.derndorfer at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [sugar] New joyride build 2258
>> To: "Eben Eliason" <eben.eliason at gmail.com>
>> Cc: Sugar Mailing List <sugar at lists.laptop.org>, devel at laptop.org
>> Message-ID:
>>       <bae28afe0808060657q4baa2ffs564600b13d021afe at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> On 8/6/08, Eben Eliason <eben.eliason at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 7:10 AM, Build Announcer v2 <reinier at heeres.eu>
>>> wrote:
>>>> --- Changes for sugar 0.81.8-2.20080806git0fc57309f3.olpc3 from
>>> 0.81.8-1.fc9 ---
>>>>  + 7495 open cp software-updater on first boot after an update
>>> I don't want this!  I keep shouting about it and no one seems to be
>>> listening!  Home absolutely needs to be home base, especially after an
>>> update.  I'm fine with tossing up a non-modal alert at boot which
>>> prompts the user to update right away, with a button which reveals the
>>> software update control panel module, but I'm NOT OK with anything
>>> which, unbeknownst to the user, flits them away to some other part of
>>> the system without his/her consent.
>>
>>
>> +1
>>
>> Initially I was all for such first-boot features (especially with regard to
>> G1G1 and the help-activity). But after thinking about Eben's arguments in
>> both cases I agree that user should definitely see the home-view as the
>> first thing when they boot the machine. Especially the Sugar-Control-Panel
>> and its overlay above the home-view (which IIRC isn't used anywhere else in
>> Sugar except for the Journal object chooser instead of the traditional
>> file-choose dialogue) could be quite confusing.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Christoph
>>
>>
>> - Eben
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