[sugar] New joyride build 2258 (Eben Eliason)

[Greg Smith]

Hi All,

+1 on not reaching out over the network or doing anything without user 
input.

I'm also nervous about the software update icon in the control panel 
going out over the network and doing something immediately after you 
click and before you do anything else with the Update interface. Is 
there any precedent or guidelines on what happens first after you choose 
a Sugar Control Panel option?

Has anyone tested the SW updater control panel over low-BW or offline?

I'd rather see it land on a nice GUI that explains what will happen and 
gives you the option to click and check for the latest activities.

Thanks,

Greg S

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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:47:42 -0400
> From: "Eben Eliason" <eben.eliason at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [sugar] New joyride build 2258
> Cc: Sugar Mailing List <sugar at lists.laptop.org>, devel at laptop.org
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> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 7:10 AM, Build Announcer v2 <reinier at heeres.eu> wrote:
>> --- Changes for sugar 0.81.8-2.20080806git0fc57309f3.olpc3 from 0.81.8-1.fc9 ---
>>  + 7495 open cp software-updater on first boot after an update
> 
> I don't want this!  I keep shouting about it and no one seems to be
> listening!  Home absolutely needs to be home base, especially after an
> update.  I'm fine with tossing up a non-modal alert at boot which
> prompts the user to update right away, with a button which reveals the
> software update control panel module, but I'm NOT OK with anything
> which, unbeknownst to the user, flits them away to some other part of
> the system without his/her consent.
> 
> - Eben
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 15:57:31 +0200
> From: "Christoph Derndorfer" <christoph.derndorfer at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [sugar] New joyride build 2258
> To: "Eben Eliason" <eben.eliason at gmail.com>
> Cc: Sugar Mailing List <sugar at lists.laptop.org>, devel at laptop.org
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> On 8/6/08, Eben Eliason <eben.eliason at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 7:10 AM, Build Announcer v2 <reinier at heeres.eu>
>> wrote:
>>> --- Changes for sugar 0.81.8-2.20080806git0fc57309f3.olpc3 from
>> 0.81.8-1.fc9 ---
>>>  + 7495 open cp software-updater on first boot after an update
>> I don't want this!  I keep shouting about it and no one seems to be
>> listening!  Home absolutely needs to be home base, especially after an
>> update.  I'm fine with tossing up a non-modal alert at boot which
>> prompts the user to update right away, with a button which reveals the
>> software update control panel module, but I'm NOT OK with anything
>> which, unbeknownst to the user, flits them away to some other part of
>> the system without his/her consent.
> 
> 
> +1
> 
> Initially I was all for such first-boot features (especially with regard to
> G1G1 and the help-activity). But after thinking about Eben's arguments in
> both cases I agree that user should definitely see the home-view as the
> first thing when they boot the machine. Especially the Sugar-Control-Panel
> and its overlay above the home-view (which IIRC isn't used anywhere else in
> Sugar except for the Journal object chooser instead of the traditional
> file-choose dialogue) could be quite confusing.
> 
> Cheers,
> Christoph
> 
> 
> - Eben
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