[sugar] Sugar Digest, Vol 22, Issue 35

Horváth-Militicsi Attila 6hunyadi
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Dear Walter

Could you tell me please, at which stage is the implementation of my manuals 
of professional French into your laptops ? I am now working to finish as 
soon as possible the third of one from the 4 planned.
Amically yours
Attila Horvath-Militicsi from Novi Sad, Serbia
email: 6hunyadi at eunet.yu  website: http://www.6hunyadi-fle.org/HMA
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> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 01:56:15 -0700
> From: "Edward Cherlin" <echerlin at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [sugar] [Localization]  code comments?
> To: "Walter Bender" <walter at laptop.org>
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> On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Walter Bender <walter at laptop.org> wrote:
>> It may become an important feature over time, such as when we have
>>  Quechua support and want to fall back to Spanish before falling back
>>  to English, but I wouldn't think it is a priority in any of our
>>  current deployments.
>
> Current target countries
>
> Haiti: Krey?l/French/English
> Rwanda: Kinyarwanda/English/French
> Cambodia: Khmer/French/English
> Afghanistan: Dari/Pashto/English, Pashto/Dari/Russian/English,
> Pashto/Urdu/English, Dari/Tajik/English, Hazara/Dari/English...
> Mongolia: Mongolian/Russian/English or Mongolian/English/Russian.
> Later on a choice between Mongolian (Cyrillic) and Mongolian
> (Traditional) will complicate matters further.
> US: English/Spanish, English/French, English/Chinese, English/Italian,
> English/Korean, English/Vietnamese,...
>
> Other possibilities
>
> Nigeria: any combination of Hausa, Igbo, Yoruba, English and others
> Brazil: Portuguese (Brazil)/Portuguese/English/Spanish, among other
> possibilities
> India: Any combination of more than 20 official languages, plus other
> world languages
>
> Me: 
> English/French/German/Russian/Spanish/Yiddish/Japanese/Chinese/Korean/Swahili
>
> You can't decide for your users what they want. It is best to let them
> choose. I don't say that you have to allow 10 choices, as in my
> example, but four or five is quite common. My grandfather spoke
> Polish, Russian, Lithuanian, Yiddish, and later in life English, and
> knew a fair amount of Hebrew and some Aramaic. They do say that the
> correct English word for a person who speaks multiple languages is
> "polyglot", and the correct English word for a person who speaks only
> one language is "American".
>
>>  -walter
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 12:59 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at tomeuvizoso.net> 
>> wrote:
>>  > Very interesting, I guess we should integrate it in the language
>>  >  section of the control panel. AFAIK, this is not being considered 
>> yet.
>>  >
>>  >  If we don't want to add more complexity to the control panel UI, we
>>  >  may assign under the hoods a fallback language to every language?
>
> No. Too many possibilities, not enough information.
>
>>  >  Perhaps someone from deployment could comment on the better milestone
>>  >  to target this?
>>  >
>>  >  Tomeu
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >  On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 6:47 PM, Bert Freudenberg 
>> <bert at freudenbergs.de> wrote:
>>  >  > Interesting, thanks. Are there any plans to make use of this 
>> feature
>>  >  >  in deployments?
>>  >  >
>>  >  >  - Bert -
>>  >  >
>>  >  >
>>  >  >  On 05.04.2008, at 12:05, Khaled Hosny wrote:
>>  >  >  > Yes, by setting LANGUAGE env variable with a fall back language,
>>  >  >  > some thing
>>  >  >  > like "LANGUAGE=ur_PK:fa_IR:ar", you can specify multiple fall 
>> back
>>  >  >  > languages.
>>  >  >  >
>>  >  >  > On Sat, Apr 05, 2008 at 09:31:30AM +0200, Bert Freudenberg 
>> wrote:
>>  >  >  >> ... which reminds me: Is it possible in gettext to fall back on 
>> a
>>  >  >  >> language other than English when a translation for some phrase 
>> cannot
>>  >  >  >> be found? That would be a useful feature I think, as long as 
>> there
>>  >  >  >> are
>>  >  >  >> programs that are not fully translated (which will happen very
>>  >  >  >> often).
>>  >  >  >>
>>  >  >  >> - Bert -
>>  >  >
>>  >  >
>>  >  >
>>  >  >
>>  >  >
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 13:18:25 +0200
> From: Simon Schampijer <simon at schampijer.de>
> Subject: [sugar] Sugar mtg April 08 2008
> To: Sugar List <sugar at laptop.org>
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> In today's meeting we will review eben's sugar todo list:
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> http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/sugar/2008-April/004909.html
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> and discuss some parts like the 'AlertBox' in detail.
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> See you,
>    Simon
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 14:06:53 +0200
> From: Simon Schampijer <simon at schampijer.de>
> Subject: [sugar] xulrunner beta5 in sugar-jhbuild
> To: Sugar List <sugar at laptop.org>
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> Hi,
>
> I have updated sugar-jhbuild to use the xulrunner beta 5 sources
> http://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/2008/04/02/firefox-3-beta-5-now-available-for-download/
>
> It passed the buildbot test as well:
> http://iorich.caltech.edu:8014/A/builds/203
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> Enjoy,
>    Simon
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