[sugar] Importing objects from journal

Samuel Klein meta.sj
Thu Sep 27 14:18:56 EDT 2007


On 9/25/07, Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de> wrote:
> On Sep 25, 2007, at 15:37 , Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> > There will be a D-Bus service (perhaps a new one, perhaps will be the
> > service corresponding to the Journal activity) that will offer a
> > retrieveObjectFromJournal method. This method will allow some preset
> > filters for filtering by Kind, Date, etc.
> >
> > This method will open a modal dialog similar to the overlay in [1] and
> > will let the user choose one or several objects from a simplified
> > journal list view.
> >
> > [1] http://wiki.laptop.org/go/
> > Image:Activity_browse_handheld_navigation.jpg
> >
> > Now would be a good moment to discuss if we should implement this for
> > FRS or later.
> The earlier the better if I had a say.
> > We have chosen to not support links to other objects in the journal.

I don't understand this choice...

> > This will waste space, but simplifies greatly things and we hope will
> > give a better experience.
> How would the inability to automatically track changes of an imported
> object "give a better experience"?
> It does simplify things, even more so, it over-simplifies them.

And am confused even about the simplicity.  It seems to me that in a
simple system I can say "store/save this item so that everything else
can see it".  Precluding this option makes sharing complicated, and
sharing is one of the core uses we want to support.

> > This was decided expecting that differential storage and transparent
> > backup to the server will reduce the impact of storage waste and that
> > self contained objects will allow for easier sharing and management of
> > journal objects.
> Well, this wouldn't necessarily preclude optionally tracking objects,
> an activity would have to be prepared that the object may not be
> available, and in this case just continue to use its own copy.


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