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</head><body text="#000000">Great, thanks for the clarification on the
packages below, as well as the webkit2gtk3 package names. <br>
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type="cite"><pre wrap="">Here's a curated list of packages that are/may be relevant to us/SoaS:
rpms/sugar-analyze is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
rpms/sugar-analyze is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': pbrobinson, tuxbrewr, callkalpa
</pre></blockquote><pre wrap="">This was retired in f-29, I don't remember why, it'll need to under go
a new review process
</pre><blockquote type="cite"><pre wrap="">rpms/sugar-help is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
rpms/sugar-help is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': pbrobinson, callkalpa
</pre></blockquote><pre wrap="">This was retired in f-26, I don't remember why, it'll need to under go
a new review process
</pre><blockquote type="cite"><pre wrap="">rpms/sugar-presence-service is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': pbrobinson, tomeu
</pre></blockquote><pre wrap="">This was retired because it was removed as a requirement in sugar
years ago, I had asked they eToys upstream maintainers for over 3
years to port it to the newer sugar APIs and hence eToys was retired,
there's no reason to have sugar-presence-service
</pre><blockquote type="cite"><pre wrap="">rpms/webkitgtk is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
rpms/webkitgtk is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': pwalter, kevin, tpopela, huzaifas, mso
rpms/webkitgtk3 is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
rpms/webkitgtk3 is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': phatina, mclasen, pwalter, tpopela 'groups': @gnome-sig
rpms/webkitgtk4 is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users
rpms/webkitgtk4 is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': tpopela, kalev, catanzaro 'groups': @gnome-sig
</pre></blockquote><pre wrap="">These have moved around and are provided by various packages, I
believe sugar only requires the last one and it's provided by
webkit2gtk3 so there's no issue here that I can see.
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<div>FYI. See below e-mail. There may be others in the list that I'm
unaware of. Ibiam, we should probably get you set up as a maintainer<br>for
the sugar packages listed below:<br><br>Here's a curated list of
packages that are/may be relevant to us/SoaS:<br><br>rpms/sugar-analyze
is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users<br>rpms/sugar-analyze
is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': pbrobinson, tuxbrewr,
callkalpa<br>rpms/sugar-help is retired but does not list 'orphan' in
its users<br>rpms/sugar-help is retired and has the following:
'maintainers': pbrobinson, callkalpa<br>rpms/sugar-presence-service is
retired and has the following: 'maintainers': pbrobinson, tomeu</div>
<div>rpms/webkitgtk is retired but does not list 'orphan' in its users<br>rpms/webkitgtk
is retired and has the following: 'maintainers': pwalter, kevin,
tpopela, huzaifas, mso<br>rpms/webkitgtk3 is retired but does not list
'orphan' in its users<br>rpms/webkitgtk3 is retired and has the
following: 'maintainers': phatina, mclasen, pwalter, tpopela 'groups':
@gnome-sig<br>rpms/webkitgtk4 is retired but does not list 'orphan' in
its users<br>rpms/webkitgtk4 is retired and has the following:
'maintainers': tpopela, kalev, catanzaro 'groups': @gnome-sig</div>
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Morning Everyone,<br><br>A little while ago we have received the request
on the infra issue tracker to<br>remove all maintainers of retired
packages [1].<br><br>So today I decided to look at what this would look
like and wrote a script that<br>queries PDC for the list of all branches
on all projects [2], gather from it a<br>list of all the packages that
are retired on all their branches (so all branches<br>are
``active=false``).<br>For each of these retired project, it queries
dist-git to find out if they still<br>have maintainers in addition to
the ``orphan`` user.<br><br>The outcome of this script can be found
there:<br><br> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://pingou.fedorapeople.org/retired_packages_with_maintainers.log"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://pingou.fedorapeople.org/retired_packages_with_maintainers.log</a><br><br><br>Some
stats about this:<br>- 881 RPM packages are retired and still have
maintainers (out of 4322 retired<br> RPMs).<br>- 662 of them are not
orphaned<br>- 42 modules are retired and still have maintainers (out of
42 retired modules).<br>- all of them are not orphaned<br>- 2 containers
are retired and still have maintainers (out of 3 retired<br>
containers).<br>- all of them are not orphaned<br><br>Which brings a
couple of questions:<br>- Do we have a documented way to mark modules as
orphaned or retired?<br>- Should we orphan all the RPM packages that
are retired but not orphaned?<br><br><br>Finally, does everyone agree
about the original request: "remove all maintainers<br>of retired
packages"? Or should we bring this to FESCo?<br><br><br>Thanks for your
inputs,<br><br>Pierre<br><br><br>[1] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
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