<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#073763">So I found that SoaS and Fedora Workstation, at least, have the audio output sink default on card/port index 1 instead of the convention of index 0.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#073763">Where and how this goes this way, I don't know. But it happens on more than one system.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#073763"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#073763">I've updated the bug report, <a href="https://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/4998">https://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/4998</a>.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#073763"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#073763">A workaround is to use the PulseAudio command,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#073763">$ pacmd set-default-sink 0</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#073763"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 4:36 AM Peter Robinson <<a href="mailto:pbrobinson@gmail.com">pbrobinson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">> With Fedora-SoaS-Live-x86_64-32-1.6.iso I'm hearing no sound.<br>
> And see no log messages.<br>
><br>
> Is this a common problem?<br>
<br>
Ultimately in this cycle in particular an awful lot changed, we moved<br>
completely from python2 -> python3 among a lot of other changes.<br>
<br>
For me the Speak activity works for me on a VM and that's my usual<br>
go-to sound tester as I don't need to find any media to play.<br>
<br>
Things like sound are very complex, multiple output, defaults,<br>
different hardware. Some level of detail of the hardware and the setup<br>
is useful to even begin to know what the issue may be, is there any<br>
errors in dmesg etc.<br>
<br>
Peter<br>
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> From: James Cameron <<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a>><br>
> Date: Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 8:04 PM<br>
> To: Frederick Grose <<a href="mailto:fgrose@gmail.com" target="_blank">fgrose@gmail.com</a>><br>
> Cc: Development of live Sugar distributions <<a href="mailto:soas@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">soas@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>>, Sugar-dev Devel <<a href="mailto:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>><br>
><br>
><br>
> I've no idea about your sound problem. It doesn't happen for me on<br>
> Debian or Ubuntu. I get sound from Speak and Music Keyboard. I get<br>
> sound into Measure.<br>
><br>
> For not seeing any log messages; Python 3 holds messages in process<br>
> memory and does not flush logs. Another layer of buffering.<br>
><br>
> Log files in .sugar/default/logs should be read after stopping the<br>
> program that writes to them.<br>
><br>
> For activity logs, you have to stop the activity and confirm with<br>
> Frame F6 that it is stopped.<br>
><br>
> For shell.log you have to log out and log in again.<br>
><br>
> For datastore.log you have to log out for a couple of minutes and then<br>
> log in again. Otherwise the same datastore process may be reused.<br>
><br>
> James Cameron<br>
> <a href="http://quozl.netrek.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://quozl.netrek.org/</a><br>
><br>
><br>
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> From: Alex Perez <<a href="mailto:aperez@alexperez.com" target="_blank">aperez@alexperez.com</a>><br>
> Date: Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 8:11 PM<br>
> To: Frederick Grose <<a href="mailto:fgrose@gmail.com" target="_blank">fgrose@gmail.com</a>><br>
> Cc: Development of live Sugar distributions <<a href="mailto:soas@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">soas@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>>, Sugar-dev Devel <<a href="mailto:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>><br>
><br>
><br>
> Frederick,<br>
><br>
> Chances are, with the sound problem, that this is a system/Fedora specific problem, and has nothing to do with Sugar. You can test this hypothesis by downloading a different spin of RC1.6, for example the LXDE Live ISO, and test sound there. <a href="https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/32_RC-1.6/Spins/x86_64/iso/Fedora-LXDE-Live-x86_64-32-1.6.iso" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/32_RC-1.6/Spins/x86_64/iso/Fedora-LXDE-Live-x86_64-32-1.6.iso</a><br>
><br>
> &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&<br>
><br>
> Thanks for the hints.<br>
><br>
> I tested a live USB installation of LXDE 32-1.6 and got sound for the music player sample.<br>
><br>
> So probably not Fedora in general, nor Sugar, but something in the SoaS build.<br>
><br>
> I've opened <a href="https://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/4998" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/4998</a> and attached the zipped logs from some test sessions.<br>
><br>
><br>
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