<span style="font-size:large;font-weight:bold">Forwarded conversation</span><br><div class="gmail_quote">Subject: <b class="gmail_sendername">[Sugar-devel] About installing Sugar on a stick... with "--format"</b><br> ------------------------<br><br><span class="undefined"><font color="#888">From: <b class="undefined">Coltivare Fiori</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:coltivarefiori@connettivo.net">coltivarefiori@connettivo.net</a>></span><br> Date: Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 7:01 AM<br>To: <a href="mailto:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org">sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br></font><br></span><br>The first real problem that I found looking into Sugar was that I was<br> not able to create a SoaS following the instructions at<br> <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Linux" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Linux</a><br> <br> This looks important to me, because I think that it is hard to imagine<br> what Sugar is without seeing one running, and to have one run, the<br> preferred way is a SoaS.<br> <br> I eventually solved my problems by using (with the USB key mounted) the<br> "--format" option for livecd-iso-to-disk, like this<br> <br> /media/soas/LiveOS/livecd-iso-to-disk --reset-mbr --format<br> --overlay-size-mb 500 --home-size-mb 800 --delete-home<br> --unencrypted-home /path/to/Fedora-17-i686-Live-SoaS.iso /dev/sdX<br> <br> <br> Now, I think that if one uses a key for SoaS, it would be simple and<br> clear to state that the key should be just formatted when installing<br> SoaS. Therefore, I think that some instructions now at<br> <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Linux" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Linux</a> are confusing, and I<br> would like to replace them with a suggestion to use this option,<br> "format". Would I be right? Can I go on?<br> <br> Thank you for any advice.<br> <br> Ernesto<br> _______________________________________________<br> Sugar-devel mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org">Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel</a><br> <br>----------<br><span class="undefined"><font color="#888">From: <b class="undefined">Peter Robinson</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pbrobinson@gmail.com">pbrobinson@gmail.com</a>></span><br>Date: Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 7:15 AM<br> To: Coltivare Fiori <<a href="mailto:coltivarefiori@connettivo.net">coltivarefiori@connettivo.net</a>><br>Cc: <a href="mailto:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org">sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br></font><br></span><br> <div class="im">On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Coltivare Fiori<br> <<a href="mailto:coltivarefiori@connettivo.net">coltivarefiori@connettivo.net</a>> wrote:<br> > The first real problem that I found looking into Sugar was that I was<br> > not able to create a SoaS following the instructions at<br> > <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Linux" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Linux</a><br> ><br> > This looks important to me, because I think that it is hard to imagine<br> > what Sugar is without seeing one running, and to have one run, the<br> > preferred way is a SoaS.<br> ><br> > I eventually solved my problems by using (with the USB key mounted) the<br> > "--format" option for livecd-iso-to-disk, like this<br> ><br> > /media/soas/LiveOS/livecd-iso-to-disk --reset-mbr --format<br> > --overlay-size-mb 500 --home-size-mb 800 --delete-home<br> > --unencrypted-home /path/to/Fedora-17-i686-Live-SoaS.iso /dev/sdX<br> ><br> ><br> > Now, I think that if one uses a key for SoaS, it would be simple and<br> > clear to state that the key should be just formatted when installing<br> > SoaS. Therefore, I think that some instructions now at<br> > <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Linux" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Linux</a> are confusing, and I<br> > would like to replace them with a suggestion to use this option,<br> > "format". Would I be right? Can I go on?<br> <br> </div>Sounds reasonable to me. Please put an explanation mark that when they<br> do this option that it will format the entire stick and that they will<br> lose any information on the stick.<br> <br> Regards,<br> Peter<br> <div class="HOEnZb"></div><br>----------<br><span class="undefined"><font color="#888">From: <b class="undefined">Coltivare Fiori</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:coltivarefiori@connettivo.net">coltivarefiori@connettivo.net</a>></span><br> Date: Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 9:49 AM<br>To: Peter Robinson <<a href="mailto:pbrobinson@gmail.com">pbrobinson@gmail.com</a>><br>Cc: <a href="mailto:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org">sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br> </font><br></span><br><div class="im">On 09/10/2012 13:15, Peter Robinson wrote:<br> > On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Coltivare Fiori<br> </div>[...]<br> <div class="im">> Sounds reasonable to me. Please put an explanation mark that when they<br> > do this option that it will format the entire stick and that they will<br> > lose any information on the stick.<br> ><br> > Regards,<br> > Peter<br> ><br> ><br> <br> <br> </div>Ok, done editing <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Linux" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Linux</a> .<br> Thanks!<br> <br> Ernesto</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">**************</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div>The warning should also include this reference,</div><div><a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/How_to_Damage_a_FLASH_Storage_Device">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/How_to_Damage_a_FLASH_Storage_Device</a></div> <div><br></div><div>When formatting is necessary, using the --format --msdos options may mitigate that risk, (and leaves the device usable in other consumer electronics, such as cameras, etc.)</div><div><br></div><div> --Fred</div> <div class="HOEnZb"></div><br></div><br>