Art,<br><br>Setting buildRelease=1 to one has no affect on the build. With that set when I look at the build logs it still reports building the new Parser. We use to set buildRelease=0 in all previous releases. Why they would swap this around is beyond me! Can you forward details on to them because I can never seem to get onto their mailing list.<br> <br>Peter<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 2:20 AM, Art Hunkins <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:abhunkin@uncg.edu">abhunkin@uncg.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> <div bgcolor="#ffffff"> <div><font size="2" face="Arial">Peter,</font></div> <div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div> <div><font size="2" face="Arial">My feelings exactly.</font></div> <div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div> <div><font size="2" face="Arial">As regards Csound, most of our listservs are users; developers are relatively few and tend to communicate largely among themselves.</font></div> <div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div> <div><font size="2" face="Arial">Though I also am a member of csound-dev, I was unaware of the old/new parser status. I knew the new parser was (and has been long) "under development". I'd no idea how or if it was incorporated into Csound5.13.</font></div> <div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div> <div><font size="2" face="Arial">Only a few folk (not including myself) actually build Csound - mostly Linux people (again, not me). I just installed Windows Csound(5.13) this evening for the first time - to discover that it was built with default old parser. News to me.</font></div> <div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div> <div><font size="2" face="Arial">There's much discussion of Csound lists about how documentation and user materials are subpar - especially for newbees. This makes it overly difficult for Csound to attract new users.</font></div> <div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div> <div><font size="2" face="Arial">At any rate, thanks again for all you do. And I'm always here to test.</font></div> <div><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div><font color="#888888"> <div><font size="2" face="Arial">Art Hunkins</font></div></font><div><div></div><div class="h5"> <blockquote style="border-left:#000000 2px solid;padding-left:5px;padding-right:0px;margin-left:5px;margin-right:0px"> <div style="font:10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div> <div style="font:10pt arial;background:#e4e4e4"><b>From:</b> <a title="pbrobinson@gmail.com" href="mailto:pbrobinson@gmail.com" target="_blank">Peter Robinson</a> </div> <div style="font:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="abhunkin@uncg.edu" href="mailto:abhunkin@uncg.edu" target="_blank">Art Hunkins</a> </div> <div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Cc:</b> <a title="sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" href="mailto:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> ; <a title="soas@lists.sugarlabs.org" href="mailto:soas@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">Development of live Sugar distributions</a> </div> <div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 13, 2011 7:13 PM</div> <div style="font:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: Fedora 15 SoaS release and Csound5</div> <div><br></div>Art,<br><br>It seems I did get the mail but some how missed it.<br><br>Sigh! How so typical of CSound to make the new parser the default even though they themselves don't recommend it, nor do they really even document it anywhere! GRR!<br><br>I'll have a look at the build and see what else it will affect, csound isn't just there for Sugar.<br><br>Peter<br><br> <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Art Hunkins <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:abhunkin@uncg.edu" target="_blank">abhunkin@uncg.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote style="border-left:#ccc 1px solid;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Peter -<br><br>Did you ever receive the messages collated below? (They largely occurred on the csound-dev list.)<br><br>Are the questions you mentioned (ones that were never answered) the ones addressed here?<br><br>If not, please send them again. To my knowledge, the simple "Csound solution" is running scons with the option:<br>buildRelease=1<br><br>But maybe I completely misunderstand.<br><br>Art Hunkins<br><br>----- Original Message ----- From: "Art Hunkins" <<a href="mailto:abhunkin@uncg.edu" target="_blank">abhunkin@uncg.edu</a>> <div><br>To: <<a href="mailto:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" target="_blank">sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>><br></div>Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 9:59 AM <div> <div></div> <div><br>Subject: Re: Fedora 15 SoaS release and Csound5<br><br><br> <blockquote style="border-left:#ccc 1px solid;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Peter:<br><br>I presume you received the messages immediately listed below, regarding a solution to the old/new Csound parser issue ("build csound with the scons option buildRelease=1").<br><br>If you sent questions either to this group, or the Csound-developers list, I'm sorry; I didn't receive them. Are they perhaps answered in the messages quoted below?<br><br>Also, as I wrote to you a week or so ago, there are no current MIDI issues with Csound and Sugar. (I had mistakenly thought there were earlier.)<br><br>I remain eager to test a rebuilt Csound in the Fedora 15 SoaS context, to determine if my activities are compatible - and look forward to your upcoming test release.<br><br>Thanks again for all your work on behalf of things musical within SoaS.<br><br>Art Hunkins<br><br>-------<br>(Message to csound development listserv)<br><br>Steve, Victor and Peter Robinson:<br><br>The run-time (CsOptions) flag --old-parser makes my CSD's run flawlessly. (Thanks for the suggestion/solution, Steve.)<br><br>I don't imagine my CSD's are the only ones affected.<br><br>Peter, I'd strongly recommend Victor's suggestion of incorporating the scons option buildRelease=1 into the Csound build for Fedora 15. (For one thing, it would for the time being not require changes to my Activities.)<br><br>Comments anyone?<br><br>Art Hunkins<br><br> From: Victor Lazzarini<br> To: Developer discussions<br> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 4:42 PM<br> Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Fw: Csound - CsOptions flag for old parser?<br><br><br> That is a run-time option. But if you build csound with the scons option buildRelease=1, the old parser<br> should be the default. This is the recommended (new parser is no ready for big time yet).<br><br><br> Victor<br><br> On 1 Jun 2011, at 21:30, Peter Robinson wrote:<br><br><br> Hi Steve,<br><br> Is that a compile or run time option? If the former what are the implications?<br><br> Peter<br><br> On 1 Jun 2011 21:18, "Steven Yi" <<a href="mailto:stevenyi@gmail.com" target="_blank">stevenyi@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br> Dr Victor Lazzarini<br> Senior Lecturer<br> Dept. of Music<br> NUI Maynooth Ireland<br> tel.: +353 1 708 3545<br> Victor dot Lazzarini AT nuim dot ie<br><br><br> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Robinson" <<a href="mailto:pbrobinson@gmail.com" target="_blank">pbrobinson@gmail.com</a>><br>To: "Art Hunkins" <<a href="mailto:abhunkin@uncg.edu" target="_blank">abhunkin@uncg.edu</a>><br> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 4:48 AM<br>Subject: Re: Fedora 15 SoaS release and Csound5<br><br><br> <blockquote style="border-left:#ccc 1px solid;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Hi Art,<br><br>No idea. I replied to the email you CC:ed me on and had no answers to<br>my questions. I have a couple of outstanding items I need to test and<br>fix on SoaS and will put out a test image in the next couple of days<br>and you can test it and tell me as you well no I have no ability to<br>test midi on soas.<br><br>As a side note please make sure you:<br>1) Create a new email when sending things and no hijack a completely<br>irrelevant email.<br>2) Send it to the SoaS list. There is no need to send this directly to me.<br><br>Regards,<br>Peter<br><br>On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:23 PM, Art Hunkins <<a href="mailto:abhunkin@uncg.edu" target="_blank">abhunkin@uncg.edu</a>> wrote:<br> <blockquote style="border-left:#ccc 1px solid;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Hello, Peter,<br><br>Is the Csound5 new/old parser issue now solved for the upcoming Fedora 15<br>SoaS release?<br><br>If so, is there a testing .iso I could try - to see if my activities are<br>compatible with it?<br><br>Thanks -<br><br>Art Hunkins<br><br></blockquote></blockquote><br></blockquote><br></div></div></blockquote></div><br></blockquote></div></div></div> </blockquote></div><br>