<html> <head> <style></style> </head> <body class='hmmessage'> <div>Hi...</div><div><br></div>I have been advocating for SoaS to run on both Intel and PowerPC platforms all along.  I think Sugar Labs has done pretty well with getting it up and running on the Intel machines and should continue working in that direction.  At the same time, there are still a lot of the old PowerPC Macs floating around. They are well built and last a long time. It is pretty hard to convince a principal (or superintendent or school board) that they should buy new hardware if the old stuff is still working... especially in these lean times.<div><br></div><div>There are some folks in SoCal who are playing around with getting Sugar to run on the old Macs.  They were inspired when someone was given a set of the old Mac "clamshell" machines.  So far they haven't reported back whether they have had any success, but I know they are working on it.  Most of these are folks who met Sugar at the Southern California Linux Expo (SCaLE) in the last 2 years. </div><div><br></div><div>I'd like to remind all of you that SCaLE 9X will take place at the Los Angeles Airport Hilton Hotel on Feb 25-27, 2011.  It would be great if some of you from Sugar Labs could attend, and even present.  There are a lot of open-source advocates in the Southern California area, and this is the time and place to encourage them to volunteer some time with Sugar Labs.  Here is a link to the Call For Papers if you would like to do a presentation:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale9x/blog/scale-9x-call-papers">http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale9x/blog/scale-9x-call-papers</a><br><br></div><div>There will probably also be a OLPC/SugarLabs booth again. Volunteers to help there would be very welcome!</div><div><br></div><div>Caryl<br><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 09:34:55 +1200<br>From: paperless@timmcnamara.co.nz<br>To: soas@lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org<br>Subject: Re: [SoaS] [IAEP] [MARKETING] Get Sugar landing page<br><br><div class="ecxgmail_quote">On 16 September 2010 09:00, Tabitha Roder <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tabitha@tabitha.net.nz">tabitha@tabitha.net.nz</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="padding-left:1ex"> <div class="ecxim"><div class="ecxgmail_quote"><blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="padding-left:1ex">If we support VIrtualBox we<br> should probably also support VMWare, Hyper-V, KVM and Xen. Who's going<br> to do all that testing when we have barely the resources to do a<br> single image.<br> <br> Peter<br> <div><div></div><div><br></div></div></blockquote><div> </div></div></div>I am a teacher of sorts and have been into loads of education institutes from pre school through to tertiary. Apple is everywhere so we have to solve this problem. <br> </blockquote><div><br>Apple designs vertically integrated systems. If schools & teachers decide to adopt this philosophy, they take the risk that they can't use external stuff. I don't know if Sugar Labs have the capacity to remedy this. I think that Sugar Labs should focus on making quality software, and push responsibility for adoption downstream to distributions and companies/orgs that want to promote Sugar's adoption.<br> <br>I'm sorry for my lack of sympathy, but I don't see Sugar running natively on a Mac platform as a priority for Sugar Labs. It's a priority, but we have many priorities and few resources.<br> </div><blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="padding-left:1ex"> I use Virtualbox and have a geek master to turn to for help when I need it. I have not heard of those other virtual machine things and all the teachers I know that have tried a virtual machine have done so with Virtualbox or something called bootcamp (which might not even be a virtual machine, who knows?) </blockquote> <div><br>You're right there, Boot Camp[1] is not virtualisation. It is more like an installer to make things easier for people to install a second operating system. It assists people with repartitioning their hard drives and so forth.<br> <br>I think that Boot Camp is a good route to investigate if someone has the energy. Perhaps some intrepid Mac users could adapt current tutorials[3] for Sugar.<br><br>Tim<br><br>[1] <a href="http://www.apple.com/support/bootcamp/" target="_blank">http://www.apple.com/support/bootcamp/</a><br> [2] <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BootCamp" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BootCamp</a><br>[2] <a href="http://www.helium.com/items/421906-how-to-install-linux-on-an-intel-mac-with-boot-camp" target="_blank">http://www.helium.com/items/421906-how-to-install-linux-on-an-intel-mac-with-boot-camp</a><br> <br>[note: marketing list removed from discussion]</div></div> <br>_______________________________________________ SoaS mailing list SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas</div> </body> </html>