CCing the SoaS list. You've identified two problems: the lack of clarity of our documentation and the problem with using liveusb-creator on non-Fedora systems. Regarding the former, we certainly could use some help and I agree that the <a href="http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/" target="_blank">unetbootin</a> page is simple and clear and might be a good model for us. In regard to the latter, there is a lot of community work on-going to get an equivalent to liveusb-creator running on non-Fedora GNU/Linux distros. But liveusb-creator itself is presently an upstream Fedora-specific project. Some of the other distros have their own projects for creating Live USB images for Sugar, e.g., Trisquel and OpenSUSE, but as far as I know, there is not a one-size-fits-all solution out there. Our problem is compounded by another one, which is that we are not only concerned with creating the Live USB image, but also with increasing the likelihood that that image will boot on a variety of target hardware. Perhaps the unetbooin team has some advice in this area as well? regards. -walter <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 4:53 AM, andrew brookes <<a href="mailto:andybrookestar@yahoo.com">andybrookestar@yahoo.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-weight: inherit; font-size: inherit; line-height: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit;" valign="top"> On the page : <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_StickBlueberry#For_GNU.2FLinux_Users" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_StickBlueberry#For_GNU.2FLinux_Users</a> it states if you are a Fedora user use : <code>yum install liveusb-creator </code> <div> which is quite simple and an effective way of getting live usb creator; after that paragraph however it tends to start my eyes glazing over. I'm using a Debian system , after stating ...with Fedora you can use "yum install liveusb-creator" ; why can't you simply state and for other installations use the equivalent distribution command & the source you need to add to your /etc/apt/sources.list is: something like deb <a href="http://ftp.suagrlabs.org/debian/" target="_blank">http://ftp.suagrlabs.org/debian/</a>.. So that I can also get theliveusb-creator. One section mentions a fedora installer; i know that sugar is based on a fedora core, but isn't the concept of sugar on a stick about being universal , so i think that should be re-named to universal installer since "fedora installer" is confusing. Lastly I think someone should look at : <a href="http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/" target="_blank">http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/</a> their menu & page just seesm much more minimalistic & much clearer. I trying to help someone in Ghana with sugar & have managed to install sugar via synapitc on Simply Mepis see : <a href="http://www.nkran.net/sugar.jsp" target="_blank">http://www.nkran.net/sugar.jsp</a> I think he would like support with getting sugar on a stick My friend tells me some of the best brains are working on sugar; and sugar is about a crystal clear & simple desktop/OS for children how come installing sugar seems the opposite. If you look at unetbootlin you can just click from a list to get the linux distribution on a stick. Couldn't you do something similar? Another thought crossed my mind isn't it possible to provide a download link to the contents of a newly installed sugar on a stick , and we could just paste the entire contents into a virgin fat32 formated stick ? cheers andy brookes <a href="http://www.nkran.net" target="_blank">http://www.nkran.net</a> </div> <code> </code></td></tr></tbody></table> </blockquote></div> -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs <a href="http://www.sugarlabs.org">http://www.sugarlabs.org</a>