<div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="im"><br></div>
The reason for writable root as opposed to readonly root is convenience.<br>
There was(/is?) a fedora/redhat readonly root project for a long time,<br>
I forget its name. The current method caught on, because warts and all,<br>
people liked the results better. Unionfs is a similar alternatve to<br>
readonly root, and was also chosen enmasse by other projects. It<br>
suffers from similar, but differing warts.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>What is the difference in the results? I know that creating a boot-able ubuntu</div><div>stick is pretty easy to do and I think mostly involves renaming the overlay (if it</div>
<div>is done with partitions this is all it involves, so that it just gets mounted as /home</div><div>rather than /. Is there similar functionality in Fedora? I know that this isn't </div><div>necessarily ideal, but if it prevents the corruption it could be a temporary fix</div>
<div>until something more permanent and less hackish gets worked out. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="im"><br></div>
In general it has been my experience that fedora/redhat devs are far too<br>
eager to blow off users with older hardware. I understand it makes<br>
design simpler, but it is entirely at odds with a project that is aiming<br>
to recycle older computers in the third world.<br></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex; ">
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</span></font></span></font>I'd guess (I'm not speaking for anybody), that the 1G stick is still a<br>target of SoaS, and will be, for at least another year or two or three.<br> Whereas fedora devs don't give a crap about that use case, any more<br>
than they give a crap about the usecase of my laptop without vt tech.<br>(i.e. the removal of even the capability of using kqemu accelerator with<br>qemu)</blockquote><div> </div><div><br></div><div><div>I don't mean to incite anything here, and perhaps I am misunderstanding some things</div>
<div>but isn't using Fedora itself counter productive, if the goal is supporting older hardware?</div><div>If this is the goal we should use puppy linux or something that has stuck with an older</div><div>kernel (for the reason of supporting all old hardware), it seems to me like every time the</div>
<div>kernel upgrades, many things stop working on my hardware, and it isn't that old but I </div><div>still have to wait for backports from the old kernel. Also this isn't the goal of Fedora at</div><div>all, it isn't their niche in the ecosystem as I see it, and they actually put it best </div>
<div>themselves (<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; ">The Fedora Project is out front for you, <span style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">leading the advancement of free, </span></span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; "><span style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">open software and content), it seems like they implement the most advanced portions of </span></span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; "><span style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">Linux, in order to make it stable so that it can be implemented in Red Hat Enterpirse, and </span></span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; "><span style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">other distributions benefit from this experimentation, but it will never run as fast, on old </span></span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; "><span style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">hardware with virtually no ram as something like Puppy, or DSL. Also not to mention that filling </span></span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; "><span style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">up the overlay would never happen because the entire Puppy system is something like 100M, </span></span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; "><span style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">we could even add all of the documentation that it only links to with the web, and stay far under </span></span></div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; "><span style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">the current size. </span></span></div>
</div><div><br></div><div> -Alexander Pirdy</div></div>