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<font style="" color="#00b050">Hi Again,</font><br><font style="" color="#00b050"><br>I looked at again this morning and found that I do now have the updated Virtual Box and 2 copies of SoaS that I installed this summer from a liveCD Scott Dowdle (from MSU in Bozeman MT) gave me. One of them opens and runs, but is an old version with very few Activities. <br><br>I would like to be able to show the latest version to the teachers at the CUELA/LAUSD Tech Fair on Nov. 14... even tell them how they can get it... in simple easy to understand terms.<br><br></font><font style="" color="#00b050">So, what happens to the non-techie
teacher who has access to Macs only and hasn't a clue how to use
Windows? If she/he has a techie friend with a PC to help, it would be fine, but if not,
she won't be able to use Sugar.</font><br><font style="" color="#00b050"><br>Remember the mantra: Free is good!<br><br>Caryl<br><br>P.S. I do have a dual boot Windows install on my Mac, but I don't know how to use it to create a usb stick.<br><br><br></font>> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:33:49 -0400<br>> From: dave@solutiongrove.com<br>> To: soas@lists.sugarlabs.org<br>> Subject: [SoaS] Fwd: Experimental Virtualbox Boothelper for Mac OS X<br>> <br>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>> From: Dave Bauer <dave@solutiongrove.com><br>> Date: Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:33 AM<br>> Subject: Re: [SoaS] Experimental Virtualbox Boothelper for Mac OS X<br>> To: Carlo Falciola <cfalciola@yahoo.it><br>> <br>> <br>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Carlo Falciola <cfalciola@yahoo.it> wrote:<br>> >> Ok. Here is the first problem! There is no way to create a<br>> >> SoaS USB stick on a Mac.<br><br>> > what about create a minimal fedora appliance for VirtualBox (eventalually stripped down to the basic) with the liveusb-creator already installed & ready ?<br>> > Moreover in the appliance fs there could already be stored the soas image in a well known location, so it would be oneshot download...<br>> > Shure It's a waste of download-space but should do the trick? Does It?<br>> > BTW I assume that a VB fedora VM is able to write an USB stick properly...<br>> <br>> I do this all the time since my desktop is Ubuntu and its a pain to<br>> create SoaS from there. I use the livecd-iso-to-disk but the<br>> liveusb-creator runs fine also in a VM. I'll see how small I can make<br>> one.<br>> <br>> Dave<br>> ><br>> > Then the enduser detailed procedure should be:<br>> > 1. Download the VM image properly packed<br>> > 2. boot it into Virtual Box<br>> > 3. mount the USB stick in the VM<br>> > 4. run liveusb-creator available in the VM<br>> > 5. prepare the stick (cicle 3 to 5 as desired).<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > ciao<br>> > Carlo (F)<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> > --- Gio 29/10/09, Dave Bauer <dave@solutiongrove.com> ha scritto:<br>> ><br>> >> Da: Dave Bauer <dave@solutiongrove.com><br>> >> Oggetto: Re: [SoaS] Experimental Virtualbox Boothelper for Mac OS X<br>> >> A: "Caryl Bigenho" <cbigenho@hotmail.com><br>> >> Cc: "Sugar-Labs Mailing lists" <soas@lists.sugarlabs.org><br>> >> Data: Giovedì 29 ottobre 2009, 14:01<br>> >> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:31 AM,<br>> >> Caryl Bigenho <cbigenho@hotmail.com><br>> >> wrote:<br>> >> > Hi Dave and All,<br>> >> ><br>> >> > Well, I tried to get the SoaS to work on my MacBook<br>> >> from a USB with no<br>> >> > luck. Here is what I did...<br>> >> ><br>> >> > I had an old version of Virtual Box (2.???) so I<br>> >> downloaded the new one and<br>> >> > uninstalled the old one before installing the new<br>> >> one.<br>> >> ><br>> >> > I downloaded the appliance and attempted to follow the<br>> >> instructions. The<br>> >> > Boothelper does show up on Virtual Box... powered<br>> >> off. The I also seem to<br>> >> > have Sugar and Sugar/SoaS... possibly left over from<br>> >> the old version I<br>> >> > uninstalled.<br>> >> ><br>> >> > I tried to download SoaS to a usb stick. When I look<br>> >> at the contents it<br>> >> > shows up as "599-sugar-on-a-stick-v084" and the<br>> >> information says it is a<br>> >> > Unix executable file.<br>> >> ><br>> >><br>> >> Ok. Here is the first problem! There is no way to create a<br>> >> SoaS USB<br>> >> stick on a Mac. Well I suppose you could install Windows or<br>> >> Fedora and<br>> >> dual boot and then run the liveusb-creator, but that seems<br>> >> ever more<br>> >> complicated.<br>> >><br>> >> > I did a restart holding down the option key... it gave<br>> >> me a choice of Mac or<br>> >> > Windows, nothing else. I also tried the C key. That<br>> >> just went straight to<br>> >> > Mac.<br>> >> ><br>> >><br>> >> Ok. With Virtualbox you don't need to reboot at all. SoaS<br>> >> will run<br>> >> inside Virtualbox as a guest to your OS X operating<br>> >> system.<br>> >><br>> >> > I think I may have the files a downloaded correctly<br>> >> but just don't know how<br>> >> > to make it work.<br>> >><br>> >> I'll work on some better instructions.<br>> >><br>> >> Thanks for the feedback.<br>> >><br>> >> Dave<br>> >><br>> >> ><br>> >> > Help???<br>> >> ><br>> >> > Caryl<br>> >> ><br>> >> ><br>> >> ><br>> >> ><br>> >> >> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:05:26 -0400<br>> >> >> From: dave@solutiongrove.com<br>> >> >> To: soas@lists.sugarlabs.org<br>> >> >> Subject: [SoaS] Experimental Virtualbox Boothelper<br>> >> for Mac OS X<br>> >> >><br>> >> >> I have created an experimental USB boothelper for<br>> >> Virtualbox on OS X.<br>> >> >> This will let you boot from SoaS on USB into a<br>> >> virtual machine so you<br>> >> >> don't have to try to reboot and use a cdrom.<br>> >> >> This includes an applescript application called<br>> >> "Soas USB" which will<br>> >> >> manage starting the virtual machine and connecting<br>> >> the USB to the<br>> >> >> virtual machine.<br>> >> >><br>> >> >> It has been tested on a Macbook and an iMac<br>> >> running OS X 10.5.8 so<br>> >> >> far. It seems to work reliably on my Macbook but<br>> >> the iMac had some<br>> >> >> trouble getting the USB to be recognized. I am<br>> >> looking for folks for<br>> >> >> might want to test and give feedback.<br>> >> >><br>> >> >> You'll need SoaS installed on a USB stick.<br>> >> >><br>> >> >> To install the appliance first download and<br>> >> install Virtualbox<br>> >> >> http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads.<br>> >> Note this only works with<br>> >> >> the Personal and Evaluation License edition since<br>> >> the Open Source<br>> >> >> edition does not have USB support.<br>> >> >> Next download<br>> >> >> http://www.solutiongrove.com/SoaS%20Virtualbox%20Boothelper.zip<br>> >> >> and unzip it.<br>> >> >><br>> >> >> Next open up Virtualbox and select File->Import<br>> >> Appliance. Navigate to<br>> >> >> where you unzipped the appliance and select the<br>> >> Soas Boothelper.ovf<br>> >> >> file.<br>> >> >><br>> >> >> Insert a SoaS USB. Make sure it is named "FEDORA"<br>> >> in the finder.<br>> >> >> Now you can run the SoaS USB application which<br>> >> will eject FEDORA from<br>> >> >> the finder, start up virtualbox and the virtual<br>> >> appliance and attach<br>> >> >> the USB. Right now its using the verbose boot<br>> >> process to detect<br>> >> >> errors.<br>> >> >><br>> >> >> If anyone has a chance to test this out I would<br>> >> appeciate it. Similar<br>> >> >> automated solutions could exist for Windows and<br>> >> Linux virtualbox<br>> >> >> hosts.<br>> >> >><br>> >> >> --<br>> >> >> Dave Bauer<br>> >> >> dave@solutiongrove.com<br>> >> >> http://www.solutiongrove.com<br>> >> >> _______________________________________________<br>> >> >> SoaS mailing list<br>> >> >> SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org<br>> >> >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas<br>> >> ><br>> >><br>> >><br>> >><br>> ><br>> >> --<br>> >> Dave Bauer<br>> >> dave@solutiongrove.com<br>> >> http://www.solutiongrove.com<br>> >> _______________________________________________<br>> >> SoaS mailing list<br>> >> SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org<br>> >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas<br>> >><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> ><br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> --<br>> Dave Bauer<br>> dave@solutiongrove.com<br>> http://www.solutiongrove.com<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> -- <br>> Dave Bauer<br>> dave@solutiongrove.com<br>> http://www.solutiongrove.com<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> SoaS mailing list<br>> SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org<br>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas<br>                                            </body>
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