<html> <head> <style></style> </head> <body class='hmmessage'> <style> .ExternalClass .ecxhmmessage P {padding:0px;} .ExternalClass body.ecxhmmessage {font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} </style> Hi Again, I looked at again this morning and found that I do now have the updated Virtual Box and 2 copies of SoaS that I installed this summer from a liveCD Scott Dowdle (from MSU in Bozeman MT) gave me. One of them opens and runs, but is an old version with very few Activities. I would like to be able to show the latest version to the teachers at the CUELA/LAUSD Tech Fair on Nov. 14... even tell them how they can get it... in simple easy to understand terms. So, what happens to the non-techie teacher who has access to Macs only and hasn't a clue how to use Windows?  If she/he has a techie friend with a PC to help, it would be fine, but if not, she won't be able to use Sugar. Remember the mantra: Free is good! Caryl P.S. I do have a dual boot Windows install on my Mac, but I don't know how to use it to create a usb stick. > Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:33:49 -0400 > From: dave@solutiongrove.com > To: soas@lists.sugarlabs.org > Subject: [SoaS] Fwd: Experimental Virtualbox Boothelper for Mac OS X > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Dave Bauer <dave@solutiongrove.com> > Date: Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:33 AM > Subject: Re: [SoaS] Experimental Virtualbox Boothelper for Mac OS X > To: Carlo Falciola <cfalciola@yahoo.it> > > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Carlo Falciola <cfalciola@yahoo.it> wrote: > >> Ok. Here is the first problem! There is no way to create a > >> SoaS USB  stick on a Mac. > > what about create a minimal fedora appliance for VirtualBox (eventalually stripped down to the basic) with the liveusb-creator already installed & ready ? > > Moreover in the appliance fs there could already be stored the soas image in a well known location, so it would be oneshot download... > >  Shure It's a waste of download-space but should do the trick? Does It? > > BTW I assume that a VB fedora VM is able to write an USB stick properly... > > I do this all the time since my desktop is Ubuntu and its a pain to > create SoaS from there. I use the livecd-iso-to-disk but the > liveusb-creator runs fine also in a VM. I'll see how small I can make > one. > > Dave > > > > Then the enduser detailed procedure should be: > > 1. Download the VM image properly packed > > 2. boot it into Virtual Box > > 3. mount the USB stick in the VM > > 4. run liveusb-creator available in the VM > > 5. prepare the stick (cicle 3 to 5 as desired). > > > > > > ciao > > Carlo (F) > > > > > > > > > > --- Gio 29/10/09, Dave Bauer <dave@solutiongrove.com> ha scritto: > > > >> Da: Dave Bauer <dave@solutiongrove.com> > >> Oggetto: Re: [SoaS] Experimental Virtualbox Boothelper for Mac OS X > >> A: "Caryl Bigenho" <cbigenho@hotmail.com> > >> Cc: "Sugar-Labs Mailing lists" <soas@lists.sugarlabs.org> > >> Data: Giovedė 29 ottobre 2009, 14:01 > >> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:31 AM, > >> Caryl Bigenho <cbigenho@hotmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > Hi Dave and All, > >> > > >> > Well, I tried to get the SoaS to work on my MacBook > >> from a USB with no > >> > luck.  Here is what I did... > >> > > >> > I had an old version of Virtual Box (2.???) so I > >> downloaded the new one and > >> > uninstalled the old one before installing the new > >> one. > >> > > >> > I downloaded the appliance and attempted to follow the > >> instructions. The > >> > Boothelper does show up on Virtual Box... powered > >> off.  The I also seem to > >> > have Sugar and Sugar/SoaS... possibly left over from > >> the old version I > >> > uninstalled. > >> > > >> > I tried to download SoaS to a usb stick. When I look > >> at the contents it > >> > shows up as "599-sugar-on-a-stick-v084" and the > >> information says it is a > >> > Unix executable file. > >> > > >> > >> Ok. Here is the first problem! There is no way to create a > >> SoaS USB > >> stick on a Mac. Well I suppose you could install Windows or > >> Fedora and > >> dual boot and then run the liveusb-creator, but that seems > >> ever more > >> complicated. > >> > >> > I did a restart holding down the option key... it gave > >> me a choice of Mac or > >> > Windows, nothing else. I also tried the C key. That > >> just went straight to > >> > Mac. > >> > > >> > >> Ok. With Virtualbox you don't need to reboot at all. SoaS > >> will run > >> inside Virtualbox as a guest to your OS X operating > >> system. > >> > >> > I think I may have the files a downloaded correctly > >> but just don't know how > >> > to make it work. > >> > >> I'll work on some better instructions. > >> > >> Thanks for the feedback. > >> > >> Dave > >> > >> > > >> > Help??? > >> > > >> > Caryl > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:05:26 -0400 > >> >> From: dave@solutiongrove.com > >> >> To: soas@lists.sugarlabs.org > >> >> Subject: [SoaS] Experimental Virtualbox Boothelper > >> for Mac OS X > >> >> > >> >> I have created an experimental USB boothelper for > >> Virtualbox on OS X. > >> >> This will let you boot from SoaS on USB into a > >> virtual machine so you > >> >> don't have to try to reboot and use a cdrom. > >> >> This includes an applescript application called > >> "Soas USB" which will > >> >> manage starting the virtual machine and connecting > >> the USB to the > >> >> virtual machine. > >> >> > >> >> It has been tested on a Macbook and an iMac > >> running OS X 10.5.8 so > >> >> far. It seems to work reliably on my Macbook but > >> the iMac had some > >> >> trouble getting the USB to be recognized. I am > >> looking for folks for > >> >> might want to test and give feedback. > >> >> > >> >> You'll need SoaS installed on a USB stick. > >> >> > >> >> To install the appliance first download and > >> install Virtualbox > >> >> http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads. > >> Note this only works with > >> >> the Personal and Evaluation License edition since > >> the Open Source > >> >> edition does not have USB support. > >> >> Next download > >> >> http://www.solutiongrove.com/SoaS%20Virtualbox%20Boothelper.zip > >> >> and unzip it. > >> >> > >> >> Next open up Virtualbox and select File->Import > >> Appliance. Navigate to > >> >> where you unzipped the appliance and select the > >> Soas Boothelper.ovf > >> >> file. > >> >> > >> >> Insert a SoaS USB. Make sure it is named "FEDORA" > >> in the finder. > >> >> Now you can run the SoaS USB application which > >> will eject FEDORA from > >> >> the finder, start up virtualbox and the virtual > >> appliance and attach > >> >> the USB. Right now its using the verbose boot > >> process to detect > >> >> errors. > >> >> > >> >> If anyone has a chance to test this out I would > >> appeciate it. Similar > >> >> automated solutions could exist for Windows and > >> Linux virtualbox > >> >> hosts. > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Dave Bauer > >> >> dave@solutiongrove.com > >> >> http://www.solutiongrove.com > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> SoaS mailing list > >> >> SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org > >> >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > >> -- > >> Dave Bauer > >> dave@solutiongrove.com > >> http://www.solutiongrove.com > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SoaS mailing list > >> SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org > >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Dave Bauer > dave@solutiongrove.com > http://www.solutiongrove.com > > > > -- > Dave Bauer > dave@solutiongrove.com > http://www.solutiongrove.com > _______________________________________________ > SoaS mailing list > SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas </body> </html>