Yes, let's remove the 'potential naming conventions' section; it doesn't belong in this particular document. > I happen to think that the dual-desktop Sugar/Gnome approach of the > XO-1.5 is brilliant and I'd like to see it on every Gnome desktop for example. +100. Indeed, getting Gnome design mavens to weigh in and find fault with and help out with Sugar development so that they are comfortable with that would be an excellent community-building exercise. SJ <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Sean DALY <<a href="http://sdaly.be">sdaly.be</a>@<a href="http://gmail.com">gmail.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> My apologies for the delay, I've had a very full plate. I wish to comment on Question 2, "Should SL be neutral about <div class="im">distributions containing Sugar, and refuse to endorse one over another?" </div>This question is unfortunately ambiguous. Let me explain, then answer it in the manner of my Norman forbears ;-) A key part of the Sugar Labs message is that hardware is secondary - that Sugar should potentially run on most anything; one could say "hardware-agnostic". Implied in that message is that operating systems are secondary, too. The VirtualBox solutions are well-crafted with their approach of aiding parents and teachers get Sugar up and running without installing an entirely new OS just to do so. Distributions are secondary as well. They provide the basis for Sugar to run, but for classroom needs, the less said the better; an ideal Sugar machine is turned on and shows the Home View shortly after, finds the rest of the class on the network, and so on. This is not to demean the enormous work that goes into distributions to work on varied hardware, nor to make Sugar work over the varied distributions (and I'm not forgetting the enormous XS school server work). It's just that Sugar benefits from the meme that the distro or hardware is irrelevant. Sugar benefits because the industry-centric discussion of "Windows machines versus Apple machines versus Linux machines" becomes an education-centric discussion of "how best to help children learn with a screen on a computing device". Concerns about preferable treatment towards one distro or another distract from a supertruth: the true competitor of Sugar and the distros it runs on is the system preinstalled on most PCs, which today is Microsoft Windows. There is a key difference between the GNU/Linux distributions and the two other predominant proprietary operating systems: GNU/Linux systems are open and thus closest to our education mission of "low floor, no ceiling".