Hi Sean,<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div>What Sebastian means by this is that the Checksum must match.</div><div><br></div><div>That means.</div><div><br></div><div><ul><li>you can't change the default language</li> <li>you can't change what activities are in it or even which are in the favorite ring</li><li>you can't add drivers</li><li>you can't add an eBook</li><li>you can't patch a known bug even with an accepted patch</li> </ul><div>Also since Sugar Labs does not have a Trademark on Sugar on a Stick, only on Sugar, I'm not sure what you are going to ask people who want to do these very reasonable things to call it? 狢 think you have to insist they don't use the word Sugar at all.</div> <div><br></div><div>I do see that maybe we don't want the wild west with anyone doing anything, but I'm concerned that we are going to force the very thing we are trying to prevent by this level of control, the splitting of the brand and dispersion of the teachers and parents who want to use and improve on Sugar into different silos.</div> <div><br></div><div>I want to promote Sugar in the geekiest 5% of the PTO (Parent, Teachers Organization) and bring those people together under the Sugar Labs umbrella. 泎ut to do that we have to give them Sugar with the stuff they want. I don't think many of even that 5% care much about Ubuntu vs Fedora.</div> <div><br></div><div>I think a lot of people will want a Sugar on a Stick that is "customized" for:</div><div><br></div><div><ul><li>Their native language, especially if its not the dominant language where they live</li> <li>the age of their kids</li><li>has books they like</li><li>actually works on their hardware (remember the official release doesn't include any driver that isn't in the Fedora release)</li></ul><div>I want these people to know they are using Sugar on a Stick and tell people about Sugar on a Stick, not some other brand name. 狢 want them to be the ambassadors that bring Sugar on a Stick to their schools.</div> </div></div></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Sean DALY</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="http://sdaly.be">sdaly.be</a>@<a href="http://gmail.com">gmail.com</a>></span><br> Date: Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 9:36 AM<br>Subject: Re: [SoaS] Governance & Trademark in the Wiki<br>To: Sebastian Dziallas <<a href="mailto:sdz@sugarlabs.org">sdz@sugarlabs.org</a>><br>Cc: SoaS <<a href="mailto:soas@lists.sugarlabs.org">soas@lists.sugarlabs.org</a>><br> <br><br>I support these changes.<br> <br> Thanks Sebastian.<br> <font color="#888888"><br> Sean<br> </font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br> <br> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Sebastian Dziallas <<a href="mailto:sebastian@when.com">sebastian@when.com</a>> wrote:<br> > From:<br> > <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Sugar_Labs/Governance/Trademark#Sugar_on_a_Stick_Guidelines" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Sugar_Labs/Governance/Trademark#Sugar_on_a_Stick_Guidelines</a><br> ><br> > --Sebastian<br> ><br> > ------<br> ><br> > I am herewith proposing the following changes to the section 5a. This<br> > has been derived from Fedora's trademark guidelines [1] and might need<br> > to be adjusted to cover more cases, as listed in those guidelines. By<br> > referring to Sugar on a Stick, the following draft means the project<br> > located [2] and hosted [3] here.<br> ><br> > - You *may* use the term "Sugar on a Stick" whenever referring to the<br> > official Sugar on a Stick product and its releases, as well as when<br> > distributing unmodified copies of it.<br> > -- However, this usage *must not* imply any endorsement by Sugar Labs or<br> > the Sugar on a Stick project, unless this is case and an appropriate<br> > agreement has been reached.<br> ><br> > - You *may* modify Sugar on a Stick and create remixes of it.<br> > -- However, when distributing or selling this modified version, you<br> > *must not* call it Sugar on a Stick.<br> > -- When not exposing the resulting product to the public, you *may*<br> > still call it Sugar on a Stick, though. A deployment might adjust Sugar<br> > on a Stick for its needs and still say it deployed Sugar on a Stick, as<br> > long as the modified version is not distributed publicly.<br> ><br> > [1] <a href="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal/TrademarkGuidelines" target="_blank">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal/TrademarkGuidelines</a><br> > [2] <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick" target="_blank">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick</a><br> > [3] <a href="http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/soas" target="_blank">http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/soas</a><br> > _______________________________________________<br> > SoaS mailing list<br> > <a href="mailto:SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org">SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br> > <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas</a><br> ><br> _______________________________________________<br> SoaS mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org">SoaS@lists.sugarlabs.org</a><br> <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas</a><br> </div></div></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Caroline Meeks<br>Solution Grove<br>Caroline@SolutionGrove.com<br><br>617-500-3488 - Office<br>505-213-3268 - Fax<br> </div>