[SoaS] [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Fedora looking forward

[James Cameron]

Thanks Samson.

We don't have any RPMs of the Python 3 branches or pull requests.

You would need to run Fedora, remove Sugar packages from the system,
and then install Sugar from each component source using the autogen,
configure, make, make install sequence.

Best to do this in a virtual machine, with snapshots, because it can
easily make a system not restartable and getting out of that condition
can be way more complicated than getting into it.

On Wed, Jan 09, 2019 at 08:26:25AM +0100, Samson Goddy wrote:
> I am willing to test. 
> 
> I have Some running on my computer.
> 
> Regards
> 
> On Wed, Jan 9, 2019, 4:36 AM James Cameron <[1]quozl at laptop.org wrote:
> 
>     On Wed, Jan 09, 2019 at 01:12:05AM +0000, Peter Robinson wrote:
>     > Hey James,
>     >
>     > Happy New Year!
>     >
>     > > > > > >> 1) gstreamer 1.0 support in Activies. The 0.10 series is well
>     and
>     > > > > > >> truly dead and unmaintained, but there's a couple of key
>     Activities
>     > > > > > >> that still depend on it. Clock and Record are the two big ones
>     here.
>     > > > > > >> Are there any plans to move them to gst1?
>     > > > > > >
>     > > > > > > They were moved.  Check the release announcements and the
>     tarball
>     > > > > > > directories.
>     > > > > > >
>     > > > > > > [2]http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/honey/Clock/
>     Clock-20.tar.bz2
>     > > > > >
>     > > > > > Ha, already have that, will review packaging and make sure it's
>     all right.
>     > > > > >
>     > > > > > > [3]http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/honey/Record/
>     Record-200.tar.bz2
>     > > > > >
>     > > > > > Awesome! This makes me happy, thanks!
>     > > > > >
>     > > > > > >> 2) GTK2 sugar-toolkit, again a number of Activities still
>     haven't
>     > > > > > >> moved to gtk3, any plans?
>     > > > > > >
>     > > > > > > Yes.  We have a contributor working on that now, so please make
>     sure
>     > > > > > > we know which ones Fedora think are still GTK+ 2.  Time
>     critical.
>     > > > > > >
>     > > > > > >> 3) eToys, we've not shipped this by default for some time, I
>     plan on
>     > > > > > >> retiring it and any of it's dependencies in Fedora 29. Good
>     riddance
>     > > > > > >> sugar-presence-service!
>     > > > > > >
>     > > > > > > I've no news on this one.  Best to contact Etoys project.
>     > > > > >
>     > > > > > They stopped responding years ago, they never even got around to
>     > > > > > removing the presence-server dep. I've retired it now.
>     > > > > >
>     > > > > > >> 4) This is the big one... python2. With python2 being EOL real
>     soon
>     > > > > > >> now is there any interest in moving to py3, I know there was
>     some work
>     > > > > > >> years ago to do some readiness here with the move to gtk3 but
>     I don't
>     > > > > > >> remember the details. Fedora is actively moving to python3 and
>     has
>     > > > > > >> been for some years, I think for at least 6 releases it's been
>     > > > > > >> possible to run without py2 installed at all. Is this the nail
>     in the
>     > > > > > >> coffin for Sugar?
>     > > > > > >
>     > > > > > > Our port to Python 3 is going well.  We have good working code
>     in pull
>     > > > > > > requests and branches, and plan to merge it once we have the
>     critical
>     > > > > > > components complete.  Our plan is in the GitHub projects tab
>     for the
>     > > > > > > organisation.
>     > > > > >
>     > > > > > Awesome news! Is there a rough timeline for this?
>     > > > >
>     > > > > Following last year's release plan; a v0.113 around 9th September,
>     and
>     > > > > a v0.114 around 6th October.
>     > > >
>     > > > What's the status of the 0.113/114 releases? I'd like to start to
>     > > > working on the python3 builds for Fedora 30 sooner rather than
>     > > > later.
>     > >
>     > > Stalled on sugar-toolkit-gtk3 port from static to PyGObject
>     > > introspection for Telepathy.
>     > >
>     > > There's still no Python 3 support for the static binding in the
>     > > Telepathy project, though the binding has been ported to Python 3 by
>     > > our developer Rahul.  So porting to PyGObject seems like the right way
>     > > to go.  It is in progress.  PRs #389 and #383.
>     > >
>     > > With only myself and Rahul looking at this, I'd guess another few
>     > > months before a release with Python 3 support.  I'll put it down for
>     > > discussion at the weekly meeting.
>     >
>     > Just thought I'd do a check in to see how you're getting on with the
>     > python3 port, just trying to do a bit of planning for the next few
>     > months.
> 
>     No progress.  Also no testers yet apart from Rahul.  I'd give it
>     another six months.
> 
>     > I updated all the various Activities to the latest versions the other
>     > day, except I couldn't find the latest version of TurtleBlocks, on the
>     > download site the latest is 216 and I couldn't find it in git.
> 
>     Thanks for noticing.  Yes, same here.
> 
>     Guess Walter too busy; so I used the checklist;
>     [4]https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-docs/blob/master/src/contributing.md#
>     checklist---maintainer
> 
>     Downloaded and confirmed the bundle matches
>     fbc61222ba95aa1118976434d6951647fea8e13c.
> 
>     Added tag to GitHub repository.
> 
>     Uploaded source to;
>     [5]http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/TurtleArt/
>     TurtleBlocks-218.tar.bz2
> 
>     That should get you going.  Test it though, 'cause I've made three
>     traceback fixes after v218 that aren't in it.
> 
>     > Peter
> 
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>     James Cameron
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> References:
> 
> [1] mailto:quozl at laptop.org
> [2] http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/honey/Clock/Clock-20.tar.bz2
> [3] http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/honey/Record/Record-200.tar.bz2
> [4] https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-docs/blob/master/src/contributing.md#checklist---maintainer
> [5] http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/TurtleArt/TurtleBlocks-218.tar.bz2
> [6] http://quozl.netrek.org/
> [7] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> [8] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

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