[SoaS] [Sugar-devel] Sugar in Fedora 32? was Fwd: [Bug 1737929] sugar depends on Python 2
James Cameron
quozl at laptop.org
Mon Dec 2 18:21:19 EST 2019
Thanks for looking at this Joe.
I don't know the Fedora processes to be able to recommend exact
actions, or probable outcomes in the face of inaction.
Sugar Live Build's list of activities is the Sugar Labs "Fructose"
set; they are maintained along with Sugar. But Sugar Live Build does
not use packaged activities, so is of limited use in helping with
Fedora.
Fedora has a slightly larger list of activities, and the list hasn't
been changed much for some time. i.e. new activities have become
popular but haven't been added to Fedora.
A quick way to get the list of activities in Fedora is to start
Sugar on a Stick and iterate through /usr/share/sugar/activities,
and identifying the package names from them.
On Mon, Dec 02, 2019 at 09:57:53PM +0000, D. Joe wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 04:02:41PM -0800, Alex Perez wrote:
> > Right, and the goal for Fedora 32 is to eliminate all of those activities. They
> > either get patched/ported, or dropped as a packaged activity within Fedora,
>
> As I read this for where things stand as of several hours ago:
>
> https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2267#comment-614303
>
> Fedora is set to toss Sugar in its entirety, barring further action?
>
> In trying to find something that might be a tractable set of activity packages to target, I'm looking at the set in:
>
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-live-build/blob/master/auto/config
>
> which is
>
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/browse-activity
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugarlabs-calculate
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/chat
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/imageviewer-activity
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/jukebox-activity
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/log-activity
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/Pippy
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/read-activity
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/terminal-activity
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/turtleart-activity
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/write-activity
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/memorize-activity
>
> and in Fedora seems to be (assuming 'calculator' descends from 'calculate'):
>
> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/sugar-browse
> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/sugar-calculator
> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/sugar-chat
> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/sugar-imageviewer
> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/sugar-jukebox
> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/sugar-log
> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/sugar-pippy
> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/sugar-read
> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/sugar-terminal
> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/sugar-turtleart
> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/sugar-write
> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/sugar-memorize
>
> These are just the activity packages themselves, to say nothing of the dependencies, but given that several of those even from that set were originally maintained by Fedora developers that as best I can tell are not active in Sugar efforts now (erikos, bkearney, callkalpa), it's probably more than enough.
>
> --
> Joe
>
>
> > so
> > we don't need any dependency on Python 2, which is going away. Any activity
> > that depends on something as simple as python2-simplejson, for instance, is
> > already broken in Fedora 32 (not released, in development)
> >
> >
> > James Cameron
> > November 27, 2019 at 1:16 PM
> >
> > Some of the activities packaged by Fedora depend on sugar-toolkit
> > because those packages haven't had a Port to Python 3. That's what's
> > bringing sugar-toolkit into the light.
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 10:03:46PM +0100, Chihurumnaya Ibiam wrote:
> >
> > Sugar-toolkit isn't being used by sugar anymore, sugar-toolkit-gtk3 is being
> > used and that has been ported to python3. Sugar-toolkit should be retired.
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 27, 2019, 7:51 PM Thomas Gilliard <[1]satellitgo at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > -------- Forwarded Message --------
> > Subject: [Bug 1737929] sugar depends on Python 2
> > Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 18:08:45 +0000
> > From: [2]bugzilla at redhat.com
> > To: [3]satellitgo at gmail.com
> >
> > [4]https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1737929
> >
> > Adam Williamson [5]<awilliam at redhat.com> changed:
> >
> > What |Removed |Added
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > CC| |[6]awilliam at redhat.com
> >
> > --- Comment #15 from Adam Williamson [7]<awilliam at redhat.com> ---
> > sugar-toolkit depends on python2-simplejson and that went away already.
> > This is
> > prevent SoaS images building in Rawhide, e.g.
> > [8]https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=39373467 .
> >
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> > References:
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> > [1] mailto:satellitgo at gmail.com
> > [2] mailto:bugzilla at redhat.com
> > [3] mailto:satellitgo at gmail.com
> > [4] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1737929
> > [5] mailto:awilliam at redhat.com
> > [6] mailto:awilliam at redhat.com
> > [7] mailto:awilliam at redhat.com
> > [8] https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=39373467
> > [9] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
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> > Chihurumnaya Ibiam
> > November 27, 2019 at 1:03 PM
> > Sugar-toolkit isn't being used by sugar anymore, sugar-toolkit-gtk3 is
> > being used and that has been ported to python3. Sugar-toolkit should be
> > retired.
> >
> >
> >
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> > Thomas Gilliard
> > November 27, 2019 at 10:51 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -------- Forwarded Message --------
> > Subject: [Bug 1737929] sugar depends on Python 2
> > Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 18:08:45 +0000
> > From: bugzilla at redhat.com
> > To: satellitgo at gmail.com
> >
> >
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1737929
> >
> > Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com> changed:
> >
> > What |Removed |Added
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > CC| |awilliam at redhat.com
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Comment #15 from Adam Williamson <awilliam at redhat.com> ---
> > sugar-toolkit depends on python2-simplejson and that went away already.
> > This is
> > prevent SoaS images building in Rawhide, e.g.
> > https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=39373467 .
> >
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> man screen | grep -A2 weird
> A weird imagination is most useful to gain full advantage of
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