[SoaS] [Sugar-devel] Testing Sugar Activities Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4

[Peter Robinson]

On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Iain Brown Douglas
<iain at browndouglas.plus.com> wrote:
> I have run (on Fedora-Live-SoaS-i686-21_Beta-4)
>
> sudo yum upgrade --enablerepo=updates-testing sugar*
>
> In brief testing all good, no regressions seen - brief testing only, as
> this is not on a *clean* install.

Brilliant, and RC1 should be announced shortly with all the fixes
incorporated too :-)

Peter

> On Thu, 2014-11-27 at 07:16 -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
>> I think the spec was fixed by peter in sugar-speak 48-2
>>
>>
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1167791
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 6:12 AM, Iain Brown Douglas
>> <iain at browndouglas.plus.com> wrote:
>>         On Tue, 2014-11-25 at 14:56 +0000, Iain Brown Douglas wrote:
>>         > On Tue, 2014-11-25 at 13:09 +0000, Peter Robinson wrote:
>>         > > On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Sebastian Silva
>>         > > <sebastian at somosazucar.org> wrote:
>>         > > > btw it's sneaky to remove funcionality in a .spec file,
>>         no?
>>         > >
>>         > > No, it's not, it happens all the time. It might be that it
>>         breaks in
>>         > > certain situations, isn't re-distributable, causes
>>         problems the
>>         > > upstream maintainer won't fix or any number of other
>>         reasons. What
>>         > > ever the reason is it's historical and not documented, I
>>         wouldn't
>>         > > assume malice. It's likely because translations or similar
>>         were broken
>>         > > at the time. I mean we are talking the heady days of
>>         Fedora 14 when it
>>         > > was removed!
>>         > >
>>         > > Peter
>>         > >
>>         > > >
>>         > > > 2014-11-25 7:46 GMT-05:00 Sebastian Silva
>>         <sebastian at somosazucar.org>:
>>         > > >> I added Alice and Sara (spanish bot) but was not aware
>>         it was removed.
>>         > > >> It certainly runs quite well in spanish XO1, as
>>         deployed in Peru.
>>         > > >> I was not aware of responsible for the removed
>>         functionality nor was I
>>         > > >> aware of any bugs related to it or performance.
>>         > > >>
>>         > > >> Please add it back
>>         > > >> Sebastian Silva
>>         > > >> http://somosazucar.org/
>>         > > >>
>>         > > >>
>>         > > >>
>>         > > >> 2014-11-25 7:17 GMT-05:00 Peter Robinson
>>         <pbrobinson at gmail.com>:
>>         > > >>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Gonzalo Odiard
>>         <godiard at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
>>         > > >>>>
>>         > > >>>>
>>         > > >>>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Peter Robinson
>>         <pbrobinson at gmail.com>
>>         > > >>>> wrote:
>>         > > >>>>>
>>         > > >>>>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Gonzalo Odiard
>>         <godiard at sugarlabs.org>
>>         > > >>>>> wrote:
>>         > > >>>>> > You find it. I don't know why the bot directory
>>         should be deleted.
>>         > > >>>>> > I cc to peter, who maintain the rpm.
>>         > > >>>>>
>>         > > >>>>> It goes back long before I was  the maintainer and
>>         was previously
>>         > > >>>>> working. The question is what does it do, and why
>>         when Speak has been
>>         > > >>>>> working for years does it suddenly break.
>>         > > >>>>>
>>         > > >>>>>
>>         > > >>>>>
>>         http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/sugar-speak.git/commit/?id=438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198
>>         > > >>>>
>>         > Just an observation, mainly from what I learned the past few
>>         days,
>>         > rather than memory.
>>         >
>>         > Alice's brain in Speak has mysteriously appeared and
>>         disappeared for me
>>         > in SoaS.
>>         >
>>         > I just ran a SoaS Coconut CD, with Speak-29 on it. No
>>         functioning brain.
>>         > However I am guessing at the time I used it last, Speak
>>         would have been
>>         > updated from ASLO, and as a "Stick", the brain would have
>>         been
>>         > functioning.
>>         >
>>         > Iain
>>         > > >>>>
>>         > > >>>> That patch removes the bots functionality. Looks like
>>         was done to make the
>>         > > >>>> activity
>>         > > >>>> work on systems with small memory (XO-1, probably)
>>         > > >>>> cc is Sebastian, the patch author, to check if this
>>         is still needed.
>>         > > >>>>
>>         > > >>>> I see 438f3796a85556873c5e45d6ba01ccfa558ca198
>>         removes the bots directory,
>>         > > >>>> _and_ apply the patch  sugar-speak-no-aiml.patch, to
>>         remove the need of the
>>         > > >>>> bots data,
>>         > > >>>> but right now, we are not applying that patch, then
>>         would be better add the
>>         > > >>>> bot directory again.
>>         > > >>>
>>         > > >>> I suspect it was sufficiently long ago that Seb won't
>>         remember the reason.
>>         > > >>>
>>         > > >>> Ultimately we need to just sort it out here.
>>         > > >>>
>>
>>
>>         Assertion, limited testing, please contradict:
>>         Speak, "Ask robot a question" is broken in SoaS 1.00 >
>>
>>         It has been broken for several years, but is not seen because
>>         a Software
>>         update has been available which provides bot/ and
>>         functionality of "Ask
>>         robot a question".
>>
>>         Please can we release Speak-49 to restore "Ask robot a
>>         question"
>>         functionality in SoaS 1.00 >
>>
>>         Please can we hold back Speak-49 from the closing SoaS
>>         deadline. This
>>         way a Speak-49 Software update will be available to fix SoaS
>>         pro temps.
>>
>>         I have no way of knowing how sugar-speak.spec file affects
>>         XOs, so I
>>         cannot propose to alter sugar-speak.spec myself.
>>
>>         Iain
>>         > > >>> Peter
>>         >
>>         >
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