[SoaS] [Marketing] links from homepage to Downloads page

Thomas Gilliard satellit at bendbroadband.com
Sun Feb 3 09:40:27 EST 2013


There are quite a few tutorials on the wiki already [1]
These consist of narrated screenshots, and are receiving many hits.
  2 of the *Windows Install tutorials were written during 
Google_Code-In_2012 [4]

I  think this solution for duplicating multiple USB Sugar USB sticks 
(with persistence) [2][3] Is a workable solution.(I did this at Walter's 
request for a persistent sugar USB stick.)

Tom Gilliard
satellit


[1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#Tutorials
[2] 
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Tutorials/Installation/How_to_make_a_SoaS.img_file_for_repeated_installs_to_4_GB_USB%27s
[3] Prebuilt .img files for 2 GB and 4 GB USB sticks:
  http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Tutorials/Installation/How_to_make_a_SoaS.img_file_for_repeated_installs_to_4_GB_USB%27s#Alternative:_Download_a_prebuilt_USB.img
[4] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Google_Code-In_2012/GCI2012_followup

On 02/03/2013 05:29 AM, Sean DALY wrote:
> It's clear that anything other than pre-installed raises a barrier
> most teachers don't want to deal with. However, getting Sugar
> referenced with an OEM is far easier said than done. And Apple is not
> particularly motivated to encourage others to boot non-Apple OSes on
> their hardware.
>
> In the meantime, we have to make the difficult as simple as possible.
> This includes installers and documentation including videos.
>
> I don't want to underestimate teachers' motivation to find software
> for their students, either. I have found that Sugar's unbeatable price
> and nonprofit orientation are consistently appreciated by teachers.
>
> Sean
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 2:06 PM, DancesWithCars <danceswithcars at gmail.com> wrote:
>> do you all think installing a VM is easier than
>> making a LiveCD, or SOAS and rebooting?
>>
>> Most Macs these days are Intel,
>> it's the hardware compatibility to get something
>> to boot from BIOS, and other issues, AFAICT...
>>
>> Of the kids and adults I've talked to, over the years
>> (realizing most people here have more experience)
>> they don't bother unless an XO-1.x or better is put
>> before them...  They fall in love with the hardware,
>> the cuteness factor, and if it's on a regular machine
>> (even the RPi I've tried a few on), it's a no go,
>> generally...
>>
>> Not that it's not worth having, jhbuild, sweets, VMs, etc
>> are all good, but most non technical people won't
>> try it, AFAICT...
>>
>> ---
>> odd nonstandard keyboard so who knows what I intended to type...
>>
>> On Feb 3, 2013 7:21 AM, "Thomas Gilliard" <satellit at bendbroadband.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Sean;
>>>
>>> I just did a cleanup of the wiki pages covering Virtual Box and Importable
>>> appliances
>>>   deleted a lot of obsolete information and their links [5]
>>>
>>> I updated:
>>>   Downloads [1] [2]; Fedora_18 [3]; and Sugar_on_a_Stick [4] wiki pages
>>>
>>> Tom Gilliard
>>> satellit on #sugar freenode IRC
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Downloads#Virtual_Machines_on_all_platforms
>>>   Links to Virtual Box Appliances :
>>> [2] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit/VirtualBox
>>>   Links to Soas-v8:
>>> [3]
>>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Fedora_18#Sugar_on_a_Stick_v8_.CA.BB.C5.8Chelo_.CA.BBai
>>> [4] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick
>>>   This page is still not updated, you have to scroll down to find SoaS-v8
>>> [5] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Special:RecentChanges
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 02/02/2013 04:14 PM, Sean DALY wrote:
>>>> For the past couple of years, our homepage has linked the Sugar on a
>>>> Stick (SoaS) badge to the SoaS page [1] and the "download" menu item
>>>> and "Try it with a child today" link to the Downloads page [2].
>>>>
>>>> The downloads page rightly in my view orients visitors by platform,
>>>> but the two largest market share desktop/laptop OSes (Windows & MacOS,
>>>> 96% or so of market) only give instructions for Sugar on a Stick and
>>>> the "Do you use a virtual machine?" link misses the excellent VMs
>>>> available (in particular the VMs of... SoaS!).
>>>>
>>>> I think teachers will self-classify by OS and virtually none of them
>>>> will self-classify as virtual machine users.
>>>>
>>>> Teachers will also expect pancake button 1-click installers (this was
>>>> confirmed by Sloan Marketlab study), problematic with SoaS due to
>>>> necessary USB stick manipulation and still a bit hairy on a Mac.
>>>>
>>>> I think Windows section and Mac section should both propose choice of
>>>> SoaS and using VirtualBox with a SoaS VM, explaining benefits of each
>>>> method in layman's terms.
>>>>
>>>> VMs are far less disruptive for trying Sugar, as a teacher can
>>>> download to hard disk, install and run, keeping usual apps going
>>>> (mail, browser, word processing) while experiencing Sugar.
>>>>
>>>> The downside is of course massive files to download, but that could be
>>>> mitigated with torrents and/or mirrors.
>>>>
>>>> Comment please before we get into wiki editing of this crucial page
>>>> thanks
>>>>
>>>> Sean
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick
>>>> [2] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/DocumentationTeam/Try_Sugar
>>>>
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