[SoaS] [IAEP] the 4 GB USB containing Soas-v3-Mirabelle appliance can be run interchangeably on a PC or a mac with VMPlayer or Virtualbox

[Caryl Bigenho]

Hi All
This is great news! I will work on learning to do this when I get back to SoCal in Dec. Then I can share it with others at presentations, visits and the like.  I really like the way Etoys-to-go can move from system to system. If this works even half as well, it will be big news.
Caryl (aka GrannieB, Carolina)

Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 07:27:24 -0800
From: satellit at bendbroadband.com
To: raffael.reichelt at googlemail.com
CC: soas at lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org
Subject: Re: [SoaS] [IAEP] the 4 GB USB containing Soas-v3-Mirabelle appliance can be run interchangeably on a PC or a mac with VMPlayer or Virtualbox






  






Raffael Reichelt wrote:

  2010/11/25 Thomas C Gilliard <satellit at bendbroadband.com>

  
  
     Raffael;

I just built a f14-Desktop 2nd USB using the same method and it boots fine
on the MacBook Air. I then did "yum groupinstall sugar-desktop" and then
"yum install sugar-emulator". (took 2 hrs because of the slowness of USB)
Now I have a USB that will boot sugar or gnome via the gdm login.


thanks for testing;

Tom Gilliard

Raffael Reichelt wrote:

2010/11/25 Thomas C Gilliard <satellit at bendbroadband.com> <satellit at bendbroadband.com>

   Raffael Reichelt wrote:

2010/11/25 Thomas C Gilliard <satellit at bendbroadband.com> <satellit at bendbroadband.com> <satellit at bendbroadband.com> <satellit at bendbroadband.com>


   Running Soas files on a 2nd USB in Virtualbox 3.2 installed on the MacBook
Air
: In VirtualBox Make a "new" Virtualbox appliance where you specify the
existing vmdk file on the 2nd USB as the Hard Disk.

NOTE the same 4 GB USB; 2nd USB containing the students appliance files
runs interchagably in BOTH VMPlayer and Virtualbox on Mac and PC.s

This a very simple solution with [http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/3.2.10/VirtualBox-3.2.10-66523-OSX.dmgVirtualBox-3.2.10-66523-OSX.dmg] installed on your Mac.

See: [http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Mac_OS_X-Boot_USB_with_Virtualbox#Soas-v3_Mirabelle_virtualbox_files_to_put_on_2nd_USBSoas-v3_Mirabelle_virtualbox_files_to_put_on_2nd_USB]

I just discovered the great feature that the 4 GB USB containing
Soas-v3-Mirabelle can be run interchangeably on a PC or a mac with either
VMPlayer or Virtualbox.
This may be why Virtualbox 3.2 now allows multiple expanding HD of 2 Gb
slices.
:: TESTED ON:
:: Acer Aspire One Netbook Ubuntu 9.10 Virtualbox
:: MacBook Air OSX Virtualbox
:: Dell 520n Dektop PC Ubuntu 9.04 VMPlayer


This means that the student has his individual copy of Soas on the USB
stick and can open it on multiple computers and operating systems. This is
not a live image but a full install to a virtual Harddisk. It should be much
more robust. Plus the stick's contents can be copied any time as a backup.
The application goes thru firstboot with the student's name and password
required to access it.

I think that this may be the solution we have been looking for.

A compressed version of the Soas-v3 Appliance (before firstboot) is
downloadable from

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Mac_OS_X-Boot_USB_with_Virtualbox#Prebuilt_Soas-v3-Mirabelle_4GB_Appliance

Thomas Gilliard
satellit


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        Raffael;

Here are the specs I used:
http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/Soas-v3-Mirabelle_no_firstboot.tar.bz2

->*Root Password=sugarroot*<_

Expanded and copied 8 files to USB*
Built on this site:http://www.easyvmx.com/

CDhttp://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/soas-3-mirabelle.iso

Used Soas-v3-Mirabelle CD in VMplayer to install:
   Used liveinst in sugar-root terminal

USB*
Soas-v3-Mirabelle.vmx (on 4GB Firefly USB)
Formatted fat 16
Label=MIRABELLE
Specs:
Other Linux  2.6.x kernel
Workstation 6.0 virtual machine
512 MB
1 Processor
4.7 GB HD
CD/DVD (IDE) Auto Detect
Network Adapter NAT

Oracle Virtualbox 3.2.10 r66523 for OSX
settings:
OS: Linux/fedora
512 Base Memory
12 MB Video Memory
Storage:Soas-v3-Mirabelle.vmdk
Slot SATA Port 0
 Attached to Soas-v3-on 2nd USB
Network Adapter 1 enabled NAT

Works fine here.

thanks for testing!

Tom Gilliard
satellit


 I tried it on my MacBookAir, OSX 10.6.5, VirtualBox 3.2.10 and it needed
about 3 times booting undtil it worked (crashes during firstboot and logon).
One Problem is there is a root password set and my user is not in sudoers.



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 Hello Tom!


 Thanks for the root password - I will test a little bit further. Let you
know then ...

Raffael



 Hello Thomas!
    
  
  Is there no way to boot a virtual machine physically from usb (virtualbox
under OSX)? 

So far I have not found any way to boot a USB directly in OSX

Look at:

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Mac_OS_X-Boot_USB_with_Virtualbox#Mac_OSX-F14-desktop_with_Virtualbox_Boot_USB



http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/Mac_F14_Vbox.img.tar.bz2

(This is an experimental method I am working on,,,)

Uses this Boot helper Cd to boot
Mac_OSX-F14-desktop_with_Virtualbox_Boot_USB

 http://www.wronkiewicz.net/soas-4-boot-test.iso



HOW TO BUILD:

1-) 4 GB USB created in Virtualbox 3.2 for OSX install of f14-desktop
on a MacBook Air with liveusb-creator

  (I have had problems using liveusb's created outside of OSX)

2-) resulting live USB is then booted with Boot helper CD

    yum install liveusb-creator

    install  Virtualbox3.2 for fedora 

3-) shutdown

4-)insert USB into desktop PC running linux

5-) Create .img file

dd if=(liveusb) of=Mac_F14_Vbox.img

6-) Compress .img file 

 this is resulting file uplinked to Tgillard

 http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/Mac_F14_Vbox.img.tar.bz2 



Thus when you open Virtualbox 3.2 on the booted live USB and you can
run Virtualbox pointing to a 2nd USB with the mirabelle no
firstboot.vmdk files



Note the Mac_OSX-F14-desktop_with_Virtualbox_Boot_USB is quite
complected and fragile as it is a live USB with persistence. !



DO not try to use Virtualbox to build a appliance on this USB. It will
fill up and stop working permanently! Only use files on 2nd USB.



I suppose you could use a 8GB USB and "livinst" the f14-desktop to a
USB (I have not tried this) this may have enough room to run one
mirabelle appliance from the boot USB.

This USB MAY not boot under OSX though...Needs testing in future.



Thanks for testing



Tom Gilliard

satellit


  This would be really great. I saw some topics on this with
vmware but until now could not find out how to prepare the stick.

Regards,
Raffael

  




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