[SoaS] Making Creation Kit Less Technical

[Caryl Bigenho]

Hi Ed,
As I see it, the whole idea of the SoaS creation kit is to have something that a user (hopefully an educator when the process is smoothed out) will be able to get in a self-contained unit with all of the resources needed to create and use SoaS in all of its forms... live cd, usb stick, and even installed on their hard drive.  The user should not need internet access to do this... in fact, they may not have it.  Since SoaS and the installation process are constantly being changed, updated, and improved there will naturally be many versions out in the world.  What works for one, may not work for another. Hence, the problem with the FLOSS manual.  The instructions for each specific version should be included in the file or distributed dvd. The end user should not need to access an online FLOSS manual. They may not even create their own creation kit... it may be given to them in dvd form. BTW, no "print form" need be used. We are saving trees... now about the plastic... maybe we should campaign for dvds made from plastics that come from corn or algae rather than petroleum. ;-D
Caryl

> Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 17:21:24 -0400
> Subject: Re: [SoaS] Making Creation Kit Less Technical
> From: echerlin at gmail.com
> To: cbigenho at hotmail.com
> 
> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 13:43, Caryl Bigenho <cbigenho at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > FLOSS manuals don't seem like the place for something like this that changes
> > constantly and rapidly.
> 
> I thought that that was part of the point of FLOSS Manuals, as opposed to print.
> 
> > Caryl
> >
> >> Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 21:52:38 -0400
> >> From: echerlin at gmail.com
> >> To: jtis4stx at hotmail.com
> >> CC: soas at lists.sugarlabs.org; gerald.ardito at gmail.com;
> >> discuss at lists.flossmanuals.net
> >> Subject: Re: [SoaS] Making Creation Kit Less Technical
> >>
> >> Should we move the SOAS Creation Kit guide into FLOSS Manuals? I will
> >> be happy to join in a book sprint there. I have lots of experience
> >> reading engineering documents and producing manuals for novices. We
> >> have many other editors with similar experience in making sure that
> >> the resulting manual is at the level of the intended users.
> >>
> >> http://en.flossmanuals.net/write
> >>
> >> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 16:26, John Tierney <jtis4stx at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Hi Tom,
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for the link and info on Sugar on a Stick Creation Kit. I
> >> > downloaded
> >> > and was able to sucessfully burn. There is a lot of great resources
> >> > included,
> >> > if we can translate/package into a slightly less Technical Format I
> >> > think it
> >> > could be very helpful and will allow new users to engage Sugar and
> >> > become
> >> > distributors of Sugar as well as participating members of the community.
> >> >
> >> > For myself and the audience who will be receiving the SoaS Creation Kit
> >> > DVD,
> >> > the present layout is slightly overwhelming. So I would like to do a
> >> > little
> >> > collaborative
> >> > effort over the next week to try to put the files in a delivery format
> >> > that
> >> > would allow
> >> > the recipient to have a clear and successful path from First interacting
> >> > with Sugar,
> >> > Secondly becoming an expert at creating SoaS through Fedora USB Creator,
> >> > and
> >> > then
> >> > with a little introduction to Command Line we can turn them into
> >> > SugarClone
> >> > stars.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > What I have done below is to reorder and try to group files. This to
> >> > allow
> >> > new users to
> >> > have a clear presentation of what they are, what they are used for. Big
> >> > piece that needs
> >> > to be added is the USB Creator and instructions how to use.
> >> >
> >> > My belief is we presently have most of the pieces of the puzzle for
> >> > this,
> >> > with a little polish
> >> > we can put together Creation Kit with an easily navaigable landscape. I
> >> > think one of the
> >> > first documents should be a what's in the creation kit, with short
> >> > explanation of what it's
> >> > used for. Also a comment on level of difficulty might help.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for taking this Creation Kit up. I think we are pretty close to
> >> > having something
> >> > pretty cool, which will be a big bonus to our outreach efforts and
> >> > ability
> >> > to attract new
> >> > resources. Look forward to collaborating on this.
> >> >
> >> > 2-) Download and burn the DVD:
> >> >
> >> >   http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/SugarCreatonKit07.iso
> >> >
> >> > ****Was able to sucessfully download-Took about 7hrs
> >> >
> >> > This has pdf.s of the Floss Manuals and Many other source and learning
> >> > materials :
> >> > ----------------------------------------------------
> >> > ==What is on this DVD?==
> >> >    version .07
> >> >
> >> > * What is Sugar.pdf
> >> > (http://en.flossmanuals.net/sugar)
> >> >
> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > *-Read Me First Floss Manuals {Folder}
> >> > http://en.flossmanuals.net
> >> > (Browse)
> >> > (Chat)
> >> > (funWith the Journal)
> >> > (Make Your Own Activities)
> >> >>How to write sugar activities by James Simmons
> >> > (Write)
> >> > (Record)
> >> > (The Terminal)
> >> > (Turtle art)
> >> > (Write)
> >> >
> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > *-The Undiscoverable Features of Sugar.pdf
> >> > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/The_Undiscoverable
> >> > 125mb
> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > Can all of these .txt be turned into PDF's? Maybe it's
> >> > just me when I open in notepad the text is all together
> >> > and not very inviting to a new user.(Overwhelming).
> >> > *-HOW TO MAKE an ISO from a CD or DVD.txt
> >> >
> >> > *-How to Make a USB Stick.txt
> >> >
> >> > *-How To Sugarize applications.txt
> >> >
> >> > *-Working with Live USB's.txt
> >> >
> >> > *CONTENTS OF DVD.txt
> >> > (listing of DVD Contents-THIS DOCUMENT)
> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > *-image-writer-mac
> >> > http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/image-writer-mac
> >> >  6.8k
> >> > (Intel Mac-use to make a non persistent USB from an .iso file)
> >> >
> >> > *-image-writer
> >> > http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/image-writer
> >> > 7.9k
> >> > (use to make a non persistent USB from an .iso file)
> >> >
> >> > (Is there expalnation and instructions for the use of these files?
> >> > Who needs them? Why? What will they accomplish?
> >> > These may be very important since so many Educators use
> >> > Macs. The fact it makes non persistent would they then be only
> >> > for Demo purposes?)
> >> >
> >> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >
> >> > SoaS Strawberry Folder
> >> > *-soas-1-strawberry.iso
> >> > http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/soas-1-strawberry.iso
> >> > 380m
> >> > (Burn this to a CD and Boot with it)
> >> > *-soas-1-boot.iso
> >> > http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/soas-1-boot.iso
> >> > 8.4m
> >> > (Use as CD to Boot strawberry v1 USB for older PC's)
> >> >
> >> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > SoaS Blueberry Folder
> >> > *-soas-2-blueberry.iso
> >> > http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/soas-2-blueberry.iso
> >> > 380m
> >> > (Burn this to a CD and Boot with it)
> >> > *-soas-2-boot.iso
> >> > http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/soas-2-boot.iso
> >> > 14m
> >> > (Use as CD to Boot Blueberry v2 USB for older PC's)
> >> >
> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > Beta SoaS Mirabelle Folder-(I will need a Creation Kit image
> >> > by end of this week to be able and burn and ship to Purdue-will
> >> > there be a Mirabelle image we could include?)
> >> > *-soas-3-20100319.iso
> >> > http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/3/soas-3-20100319.iso
> >> > 454m
> >> > (Stable f13 spin with minimal number of applications)
> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > Will there be a Boot cd iso for Mirabelle?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > *-livecd-iso-to-disk.sh
> >> > http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/livecd-iso-to-disk.sh
> >> > 21.k
> >> > (What exactly is this and is there an explanation and some instructions
> >> > how to use)
> >> >
> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > *-ASLO.iso
> >> > http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/ASLO-xo.tar.gz
> >> > 566m
> >> > (111 application.xo files copy to a USB and drag drop into sugar journal
> >> > to
> >> > install them to Sugar)
> >> >
> >> > ***Did create the disk but I'm not exactly sure how to use it. Needs
> >> > some
> >> > simple documentation***
> >> >
> >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > * SugarClone {folder}
> >> >   http://people.sugarlabs.org/fgrose/
> >> > (script files for making a customized live USB Self-replicating)
> >> > ( superclone.pdf)
> >> > ( modified_livecd-iso-to-disk)
> >> > ( newSugarStick)
> >> > ( SugarClone)
> >> > ( transferSugarImage)
> >> > ( Duplicating SoaS with customization.txt)
> >> >
> >> > *-How to Make a USB Stick.txt
> >> > (instructions on how to use the above script)
> >> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >
> >> > *-PREPARATION OF AN OPERATIONAL SoaS USB KEY
> >> > (Jean Thiéry [Jean.Thiery(ò)ModLibre.info][http://ModLibre.info/]
> >> > Member of OLPC-France [http://olpc-france.org])
> >> >
> >> > Can this be in PDF format?
> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > For the Creation Kit I will distribute I think I would keep these off
> >> > for
> >> > now. If
> >> > recipients have made it this far to be able to truly use these, they
> >> > will
> >> > have
> >> > a set up on their computer and understand processes enough to download
> >> > themselves
> >> >
> >> > *-soas-2-blueberry-direct-cleared-3GB.img.xz
> >> >
> >> > http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/soas-3-20100319-2GBUSB-Corrected.img.bz2
> >> > 440mb
> >> > (stable 4 GB USB img file for Blueberry with ext3 file structure)
> >> > use this command in root terminal to write: dd if=xxxxx.img
> >> > of=/dev/sd(*)
> >> > * path to your USB BE Certain this is correct, VERY DANGEROUS!
> >> >
> >> > *-Fedora-12-i386-netinst.iso
> >> > (Minimal CD to make your own custom fedora USB or Hard Disk install
> >> > REQUIRES
> >> > HIGH SPEED INTERNET CONNETCTION TO USE)
> >> >  Note: A USB install may take 6+ hrs at high speed
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Appreciate the Collaboration!
> >> >
> >> > John Tierney
> >> >
> >> >
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> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
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> Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin
> Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation.
> The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination.
> http://www.earthtreasury.org/
 		 	   		  
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