Caryl;
Of course....
Caryl Bigenho wrote:
> Oops! Sorry about the spelling label
> Caryl
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> From: cbigenho at hotmail.com
> To: satellit at bendbroadband.com; jtis4stx at hotmail.com
> Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 17:44:16 -0700
> CC: soas at lists.sugarlabs.org; gerald.ardito at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [SoaS] Making Creation Kit Less Technical
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> Hi Tom and John,
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> I have a MacBook and will try to help you with testing. So far, I did successfully make SoaS v2 on it in terminal with the help of George Hunt, and have made a SoaS v2 on a friend's PC.
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> I have also bought an eeePC which, of course, has no optical drive. I want to get one, perhaps a LiteScribe version so I can lable my cds. What do you guys think?
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I do not think litescribe will work with fedora linux. It should be fine
with your native windows.
I use an external usb HP DVD/CDR model dvd555o with my EeePc900/ASUS
Aspire ONE 532h in linux and windows.
> Let me know what you want me to do on the MacBook (I use a Boot Helper cd). And, please supply fairly clear instructions. I will also help write the instructions suitable for educators with average (or less) computer knowledge.
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I will keep you in the loop : )
I saw your blog re: your sugar expo....Congratulations
Tom Gilliard
satellit
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> Caryl
> P.S. The SoaS's run fairly well on both the MacBook and eeePC (not everything works). Neither has persistant storage.
> Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 16:47:22 -0700
> From: satellit at bendbroadband.com
> To: jtis4stx at hotmail.com
> CC: soas at lists.sugarlabs.org; gerald.ardito at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [SoaS] Making Creation Kit Less Technical
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> John Tierney wrote:
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> Hi Tom,
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> Thanks for the link and info on Sugar on a Stick Creation Kit. I downloaded
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> and was able to sucessfully burn. There is a lot of great resources included,
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> if we can translate/package into a slightly less Technical Format I think it
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> could be very helpful and will allow new users to engage Sugar and become
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> distributors of Sugar as well as participating members of the community.
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> For myself and the audience who will be receiving the SoaS Creation Kit DVD,
> the present layout is slightly overwhelming. So I would like to do a little collaborative
> effort over the next week to try to put the files in a delivery format that would allow
> the recipient to have a clear and successful path from First interacting with Sugar,
> Secondly becoming an expert at creating SoaS through Fedora USB Creator, and then
> with a little introduction to Command Line we can turn them into SugarClone stars.
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> What I have done below is to reorder and try to group files. This to allow new users to
> have a clear presentation of what they are, what they are used for. Big piece that needs
> to be added is the USB Creator and instructions how to use.
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> My belief is we presently have most of the pieces of the puzzle for this, with a little polish
> we can put together Creation Kit with an easily navaigable landscape. I think one of the
> first documents should be a what's in the creation kit, with short explanation of what it's
> used for. Also a comment on level of difficulty might help.
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> Thanks for taking this Creation Kit up. I think we are pretty close to having something
> pretty cool, which will be a big bonus to our outreach efforts and ability to attract new
> resources. Look forward to collaborating on this.
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> 2-) Download and burn the DVD:
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> http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/SugarCreatonKit07.iso
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> ****Was able to sucessfully download-Took about 7hrs
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> I will be glad to work on updating this for you.
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> This has pdf.s of the Floss Manuals and Many other source and learning materials :
> ----------------------------------------------------
> ==What is on this DVD?==
> version .07
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> * What is Sugar.pdf
> (http://en.flossmanuals.net/sugar)
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *-Read Me First Floss Manuals {Folder}
> http://en.flossmanuals.net
> (Browse)
> (Chat)
> (funWith the Journal)
> (Make Your Own Activities)
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> How to write sugar activities by James Simmons
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> (Write)
> (Record)
> (The Terminal)
> (Turtle art)
> (Write)
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *-The Undiscoverable Features of Sugar.pdf
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/The_Undiscoverable
> 125mb
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Can all of these .txt be turned into PDF's?
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> I will try to make .pdf's on the next version
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> Maybe it's
> just me when I open in notepad the text is all together
> and not very inviting to a new user.(Overwhelming).
> *-HOW TO MAKE an ISO from a CD or DVD.txt
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> *-How to Make a USB Stick.txt
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> *-How To Sugarize applications.txt
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> *-Working with Live USB's.txt
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> *CONTENTS OF DVD.txt
> (listing of DVD Contents-THIS DOCUMENT)
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> *-image-writer-mac
> http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/image-writer-mac
> 6.8k
> (Intel Mac-use to make a non persistent USB from an .iso file)
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> *-image-writer
> http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/image-writer
> 7.9k
> (use to make a non persistent USB from an .iso file)
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> (Is there expalnation and instructions for the use of these files?
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> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Blueberry#For_GNU.2FLinux_Users
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> near the bottom of the page
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> Who needs them? Why? What will they accomplish?
> These may be very important since so many Educators use
> Macs. The fact it makes non persistent would they then be only
> for Demo purposes?)
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> They are easily available to download and use,.
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> I personally do not think they are appropriate for classroom uses
> either.
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> There are better methods available: see comments below.
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> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> SoaS Strawberry Folder
> *-soas-1-strawberry.iso
> http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/soas-1-strawberry.iso
> 380m
> (Burn this to a CD and Boot with it)
> *-soas-1-boot.iso
> http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/soas-1-boot.iso
> 8.4m
> (Use as CD to Boot strawberry v1 USB for older PC's)
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> SoaS Blueberry Folder
> *-soas-2-blueberry.iso
> http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/soas-2-blueberry.iso
> 380m
> (Burn this to a CD and Boot with it)
> *-soas-2-boot.iso
> http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/soas-2-boot.iso
> 14m
> (Use as CD to Boot Blueberry v2 USB for older PC's)
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Beta SoaS Mirabelle Folder-(I will need a Creation Kit image
> by end of this week to be able and burn and ship to Purdue-will
> there be a Mirabelle image we could include?)
> *-soas-3-20100319.iso
> http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/3/soas-3-20100319.iso
> 454m
> (Stable f13 spin with minimal number of applications)
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Will there be a Boot cd iso for Mirabelle?
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> I will include one of the latest soas spins .iso's
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> I cannot test the USB with the Boot CD as I do not have an Intel Mac,
> (G4 laptop only)
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> *-livecd-iso-to-disk.sh
> http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/livecd-iso-to-disk.sh
> 21.k
> (What exactly is this and is there an explanation and some instructions
> how to use)
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> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Blueberry#For_GNU.2FLinux_Users
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> Notes:
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> 1-)Booted CD of Mirabelle can be used to make live USB with persistence
> using the live-iso-to disk script from the command line
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> But is Dangerous for novice user as requires use of terminal commands
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> 2-)You can also download live the f13 USB creator program while running
> Mirabelle CD and make a live USB with the Mirabelle.iso file on a
> second USB
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> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Category:Live_USB#liveusb-creator_from_command_line_in_terminal
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> this is slightly less imposing
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> 3-)You can also run the graphical liveusb-creator in Mirabelle the same
> way
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> by entering "liveusb-creator" in sugar-terminal
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> the graphical install is the easiest way to do it.
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> *-ASLO.iso
> http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/ASLO-xo.tar.gz
> 566m
> (111 application.xo files copy to a USB and drag drop into sugar journal to install them to Sugar)
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> ***Did create the disk but I'm not exactly sure how to use it. Needs some simple documentation***
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> Burn the .iso Load CD in PC and drag-drop/copy-paste the activities
> from the opend CD onto a 2nd USB (1-2GB) on a PC desktop
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> then insert that USB into a slot of a PC, booted and running, a
> Mirabelle CD or USB:
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> I just discovered a great way to TEST activities with Mirabelle.
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> Run them from a second stick.
> They do not have to be installed or downloaded at all.
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> I am using a 2nd USB stick with 111.xo files on it downloaded from ASLO
> http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/ASLO-xo.tar.gz
> loaded into a usb slot of a running USB of soas-i386-20100501.07.iso
> created USB
> .............................
> I open the 2nd USB in the frame and then select the journal.
> The 2nd USB then appears in left corner under the frame and when
> selected, displays each activity.xo.
> these can be started by clicking on them.
> Each activity on the 2nd USB can be started, tested, and run this way,
> without loading on the soas live USB.
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> You can also drag-drop them into the journal in the left corner to install them on the live Mirabelle USB
> No downloading required....This is "sneaker-net" and firewall proof.
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> Very Quick Usefull way to test. I hope others can adopt it also.
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> * SugarClone {folder}
> http://people.sugarlabs.org/fgrose/
> (script files for making a customized live USB Self-replicating)
> ( superclone.pdf)
> ( modified_livecd-iso-to-disk)
> ( newSugarStick)
> ( SugarClone)
> ( transferSugarImage)
> ( Duplicating SoaS with customization.txt)
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> *-How to Make a USB Stick.txt
> (instructions on how to use the above script)
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> *-PREPARATION OF AN OPERATIONAL SoaS USB KEY
> (Jean Thiéry [Jean.Thiery(ò)ModLibre.info][http://ModLibre.info/]
> Member of OLPC-France [http://olpc-france.org])
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> Can this be in PDF format?
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> For the Creation Kit I will distribute I think I would keep these off for now. If
> recipients have made it this far to be able to truly use these, they will have
> a set up on their computer and understand processes enough to download
> themselves
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> OK, I will send you a potential contents list, for comments and review,
> soon.
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> Tom Gilliard
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> satellit
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> *-soas-2-blueberry-direct-cleared-3GB.img.xz
> http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/soas-3-20100319-2GBUSB-Corrected.img.bz2
> 440mb
> (stable 4 GB USB img file for Blueberry with ext3 file structure)
> use this command in root terminal to write: dd if=xxxxx.img of=/dev/sd(*)
> * path to your USB BE Certain this is correct, VERY DANGEROUS!
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> *-Fedora-12-i386-netinst.iso
> (Minimal CD to make your own custom fedora USB or Hard Disk install REQUIRES HIGH SPEED INTERNET CONNETCTION TO USE)
> Note: A USB install may take 6+ hrs at high speed
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> Appreciate the Collaboration!
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> John Tierney
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