[SoaS] Localized builds

Sebastian Dziallas sebastian at when.com
Mon Jun 21 06:48:11 EDT 2010


On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Raffael Reichelt
<raffael.reichelt at googlemail.com> wrote:
> 2010/6/19 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com>:
>> On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Raffael Reichelt
>> <raffael.reichelt at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> 2010/6/19 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com>:
>>>>> 2010/6/19 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com>:
>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Raffael Reichelt
>>>>>> <raffael.reichelt at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Talking with parents and teachers about soas I realized it is
>>>>>>> mandatory to provide localized builds of soas in order to make it
>>>>>>> attractive for them to give it to their children. This localized
>>>>>>> builds should be easily available for download for example on
>>>>>>> localized pages. I am glad to volunteer for the german part. Can
>>>>>>> someone explain me how to setup this page and where to place the
>>>>>>> localized build for download?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All the requirements to run a localized build are already present in
>>>>>> SoaS, there just needs to be an option to actually select the
>>>>>> language/keyboard on firstboot. Maybe its an option to provide when
>>>>>> you select the colour/name. I know there's been discussion on adding
>>>>>> an option to select a keyboard, adding the option to that to select
>>>>>> language and even timezone shouldn't be too hard.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know - but supporting non-it-persons with their computers I do know
>>>>> too it is much too difficult for them. Most of te parents I know are
>>>>> happy if the computer and the internet connection is working. Even
>>>>> they are interested in providing a learning plattform to their
>>>>> children  they do not really know how to change something. In fact I
>>>>> expect them to prefere the boot-helper/usbstick scenario.
>>>>
>>>> You've missed my point entirely. If they can't select from 3 drop down
>>>> boxes their own language, keyboard layout and timezone there's a
>>>> problem that separate images is not going to fix because they'll have
>>>> problems working out how to make the image boot in the first place. A
>>>> Windows or OSX setup expects you to be able to do this, even a new
>>>> digital camera expects you to be able to select your language and
>>>> timezone.
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>> BTW Please reply from the bottom, it makes the replies easier to read
>>>> in the context.
>>>
>>> This way? Sorry.
>>
>> Perfect :-)
>>
>>> Now I guess I  got you but as far as I can see there is no choice at
>>> the moment - would it be possible to include?
>>
>> Include the option to select the keyboard/locale/timezone? I'd love
>> to, there's been a lot of discussion about it over the time but i'm
>> not sure there was ever a consensus as to the best way to do it. We
>> have considered in the past using the Fedora firstboot util but it
>> adds extra stuff we don't really need.
>>
>> Peter
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>
> May I then ask to open up again this discussion?  Just to try it for
> myself: how can I include the firstboot util in the Kickstart files?
> Just add firstboot to the packages list?

I was looking into using firstboot one or two release cycles ago.
However, it turned out that the language selection ability had been
removed from it in more recent versions
(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=507436).

I know that Walter had been working on implementing something like
this on the screen where you enter your name when you log into Sugar
for the first time. There's still a feature page out there for this
(http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Feature_intro_language_keyboard_options).

--Sebastian

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